Thread: Traveling with guns

This site looks to give a reasonable summary of the various requirements

http://www.ssaa.org.au/newssaa/securityleg...tion/lawnsw.htm


NSW
2. Storage requirements.

Section 39 of the Act requires that a person who possesses a firearm shall take all reasonable precautions to ensure - "its safe keeping, and that it is not stolen or lost and that it does not come into the possession of a person who is not authorised to possess the firearm." Under Sections 40 and 41 of the Act, category A and B firearms must be stored in a locked receptacle of a type approved by the Commissioner. If the receptacle weighs less than 150kg when empty it must be fixed in position in order to prevent its easy removal. Category C, D and H firearms must be held in a receptacle of a type approved by the Commissioner which is bolted to the structure of the premises. All ammunition must be stored in a separate locked container approved by the Commissioner.

Under Clause 101 of the regulations, 'prohibited firearms' (category C and D) and all handguns, must be unloaded and carried separately from any ammunition when being transported. The Commissioner recommends that the bolt or firing mechanism be removed or be fitted with a restraining device such as a trigger lock. They must be carried in a locked container secured to the vehicle.

3. Hunting.

Hunting is only permitted on private property or crown land where permission has been given in writing.


QLD
2. Storage requirements.

Under Regulation 60 (3) the container used to store Category D, H or R firearms (other than a martial arts of historical or military weapon mentioned in Section 25a(1) must be made of solid steel and be bolted to the frame or floor of a permanent building. In the case of another class of firearm, the container must be made of solid steel or solid timber and if the container weighs less than 150 kilograms, then it is to be securely fixed to the frame or floor of a permanent building.

The container must also have a sturdy combination lock, keyed lock or keyed padlock. The container must also always be locked (other than for the time necessary to insert or remove a weapon, or something else, for a proper purpose.)

When a person who possesses a weapon must, when the weapon is not in the person's physical possession, store it in the way provided in sections 39 to 43, if there are, at the premises where the weapon is, more than

(a) a total of 30 category A,B,C or D weapons; or

( 30 category H weapons.

To prevent any doubt, it is declared that subsection (2) does not apply while a weapon is in the physical possession of a body's representative endorsed on the licence, or another individual, under the authority of a licence held by the body.

3. Hunting.

· Hunting is permitted on private property where written permission has been given and the property is of sufficient area to shoot safely.

· Hunting is not permitted on Crown land.


etc....etc....


So carrying to shoot the odd pig/cat/bunny etc would appear to be illegal (unless you have the landowners written permission)


Bushie (who's never had a firearms licence, but is reasonably proficient with google )

Originally posted by VladTepes
According to what I was taught when I went to get my (firearms) licence this most recent time...

In QLD at least.

Gun must be stored securely (now THAT is open to interpretation but assume it will be interpreted in someone else's interests and not yours).

When going to the range etc you should proceed directly from where the firearm is usually securely housed (eg at home) to the range, without stopping along the way.

If you were to, for example, stop at the shops and the firearm was half-inched from your car you could (as I understand it) be charged by the police for not properly securing it (demonstrated by the fact that it was pinched - you follow?).


Yes it's bloody stupid.


And I doubt you'll get anything more specific in writing from anyone 'official' because:
1. They are covering their own arses
2. They probably don;t know the answer anyway
3. They don't want you to come back at them if you folow their instructions but $hit still happens.... which brings us back to
4. They are covering their own arses



Frustrating isn't it.


I can remember walking thorugh town with 5 rifles (including one semi auto) in obvious rifle bags back before all this port arthur alarmist reactionary rubbish and I have never shot anyone.

Funny that - always the responsible gun owners that get shafted - easier than cracking down on crime you know.



<end of rant>



Did any of that help ?

Interesting...in my course the instructor just said it can be carryed in your vehicle unsecured. His slant was the main requirement was that it was not to cause public alarm. IE, carrying your shotty on the dash is probably going to scare some people s*^tless. That's bad. Carrying it in the back of your wagon covered in a blanket is ok.??

If we're all getting different stories... it's going to be hard to pin charges..

Most of the legistlation on guns is totally useless as crims don't take any notice of the law.
The fact that most licenced gun owners are generally law abiding people who just want to enjoy their chosen sport doesn't matter to the hordes of pollies we have to pay for, or their snivelling bureaucrat mates who are only interested in their pensions and what else they can get out of their positions!
As long as they are seen to be doing something, anything, useless or otherwise, especially when it concerns guns, most of the public will believe the government are protecting their interests.
"Making Australia a safer place to live"!!!!!!!!!
Yeah some hopes, you're more likely to be killed by some loony driver than shot by a gun owner!
Alan H.

Originally posted by AlanH
Most of the legistlation on guns is totally useless as crims don't take any notice of the law.
The fact that most licenced gun owners are generally law abiding people who just want to enjoy their chosen sport doesn't matter to the hordes of pollies we have to pay for, or their snivelling bureaucrat mates who are only interested in their pensions and what else they can get out of their positions!
As long as they are seen to be doing something, anything, useless or otherwise, especially when it concerns guns, most of the public will believe the government are protecting their interests.
"Making Australia a safer place to live"!!!!!!!!!
Yeah some hopes, you're more likely to be killed by some loony driver than shot by a gun owner!
Alan H.

Indeedy doodely !!!!

Originally Posted by VladTepes

I can remember walking thorugh town with 5 rifles (including one semi auto) in obvious rifle bags back before all this port arthur alarmist reactionary rubbish and I have never shot anyone.



Did any of that help ?

I used to catch two trams to go to the Enoggera range from my parent's home in New Farm carrying a naked SMLE .303. So did heaps of other target shooters.

A former colleague was working as a storeman at Lindum in Brisbane during the buyback. This was the depot that had the destruction presses and was also a receiving depot. He said they became quite blase about some of the weapons handed in. 20mm aircraft cannon, 50 cal machine guns,Vickers, Brens, and so on made quite regular appearances. He reckoned one guy who looked like a dangerous feral human handed in a WW2 Wehrmacht MG43 with 5000 rounds of belted ammunition. Mortars, grenades, shells, explosives of all kinds appeared. He said no wonder the army stopped using the Owen gun. So many were handed in the army probably had none left, all having been stolen.

On recent Hay River trip one of our friends had a gun with him. He did the RIGHT thing and contacted the police in every state we would be passing thru ie Qld, SA & NT ( he is from NSW) and was given special licence to carry/use the gun while on the trip.

Which is how it was we came to shot a pig and a camel while we were away.

Numpty's Missus

Hmm story reminds me of when I was about 19 and I needed some $$$ to take my first love ( aaahhhhhh) away for a holiday on the Gold Coast ( I use to live in Sydney). So thought what could I flog, so pulled out shotgun, caught a train into town and walked down Elizabeth street with the shotty in a gun carry case. The looks I got , was pretty nerv wracking, but hey worth it, unit on the coast, 19, first love, need I say more

Regards

Stevo

In Switzerland nearly every home has a automatic military rifle WITH ammo. It is not uncommon to see a bloke walking up the street with it strapped on his back going to the target practice. Also you will often see them taking the train with them.
BTW they are never covered!!

When you retire from the army, they give you the rifle and several rounds of ammo "Just in case" and there are less problems over there with guns than here with all the restrictions.