No Hogo, shooting is giving him the easy way out, let him rot in jail for the rest of his natural. With his form, he'll cop life without parole.
I hope they don't take him alive There is no question of his guilt, he has no compassion for others and I don't see or understand why we need court cases to find him guilty a bullet or two is cheaper than locking him up, I have no feelings at all for this scum bag.other than hate and anger
Hodg
No Hogo, shooting is giving him the easy way out, let him rot in jail for the rest of his natural. With his form, he'll cop life without parole.
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No way, I agree with Hogo Put a bullet in the tossers head.let him rot in jail for the rest of his natural.
Why on earth would you want to feed and house that animal for the next few decades.
You only get one shot at life, Aim well
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No way a bullet is to fast .
nail him down and surgically take him apart peice by peice.
State sanctioned murder is still murder, writ large. Do you want the State to come down to the level of this creep?
That said, if I could turn the clock back and be given the chance to take out, say, Martin Bryant, would I do it? In a heartbeat I would. But that turning the clock back is something I cannot do.
There are so many things to consider here. What I'm hearing is "revenge". I don't blame anyone for feeling that emotion, when it's fresh in your minds. But I would remind you of this:
I,, do swear that I will well and truly serve our Sovereign Lady the Queen as a recognised law enforcement officer without favour or affection, malice or ill-will until I am legally discharged, that I will cause Her Majesty’s peace to be kept and preserved, and that I will prevent to the best of my power all offences against that peace, and that while I continue to be a recognised law enforcement officer I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all my duties faithfully according to law. So help me God.
I don't believe anyone who swore to that would want to see death by The State as a punishment. I could well be wrong.
Vale.
JayTee
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True. And it needs to be said; Nobody has a "right" to anything. Not to be alive, let alone come home from work. We have NO rights, only expectations. I would love to have a "right" to be alive in my back pocket. I don't. I could drop dead tomorrow.
The death if this Officer is tragic, it is unnecessary, I hope that the NSW system deals with the perp as harshly as they can, but there is a reality here that we cannot escape. He is dead. Nothing we do, no outrage we express, no anger we vent will change that. I'll go further. How many of us will even remember in a month's time? Have a look at yourselves. There was a VicPol member who was killed in the same way, around Lilydale, a while back. Do any of you remember his name? Or even the incident? Outrage has a lifespan, and then we move on. It's what we are designed to do.
My heart, my feelings, to the family of this officer. I have no doubt he honoured his oath. I have no doubt he honoured his family.
JayTee
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OKApotamus #74
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amazing..... no real details out but already people making judgement on his actions? Basing these judgements on experience I assume people? (And I'm not meaning just here but across the board these experts are appearing thick and fast). Most of QPOL don't know what happened, so respectfully I would suggest your mate is "assuming a lot" from the unconfirmed and generally uninformed reports.. and we know what 'assume' does.... he/she should know better, and, I would have expected, shown a little more respect for a fallen colleague...
How about we leave it a while folks before there are judgements made about this, let's wait until the
Details are known...little things (we use a name for them ... "facts") are important.
Also we don't know what he knew or didn't etc... circumstances... etc etc...
Although the idea of the offender being "removed from the gene pool" is an attractive one, the whole idea here is we believe we are better than them, we believe that difference is because we play by the rules... this is the difference between us and them.... so it's important. That said, if he is still shooting at people, it's not an option to allow that to continue.
Like most Police who've got a few years in I've been in a situation in some ways similar to this, luckily all the Police involved went home but the stuff that people and newspapers and Tele felt the need to sprout as "experts" etc was so off base it was ludicrous..(I won't cover that any further here I've said my piece about it on the forum the one and only time I'm going into it previously but take it from me nothing is like the training..)
There are some very basic facts you can assume..
*Brett left home this morning, kissed his wife and kids and expected to see them for tea...
*Brett and other officers have confronted a male who has been armed, (I'm not sure if they knew he was armed or not) after a vehicle pursuit and a vehicle collision.
*Brett despite desperate efforts of his mates in the thin blue line, has died as a result of this offenders actions.
*Brett is someone for whom the words HERO & BRAVE are appropriate.
--Everyone needs to get out and line the funeral route when it is announced for the following reasons:
A) his family deserve that, his young children will remember this as one of the main memories of their father - make them aware we understand what he did for all of us.
B.) his wife is now a widow and deserves any help and support she can be given
C) his colleagues and family will be buoyed by the show of support
D) it will send a clear message to scumbags everywhere that the Public support the Police and won't tolerate this..
Let's not judge what has happened without knowing the facts. One report indicated that after being involved in a police vehicle rollover caused by the offender, as Brett was trying to get out of the vehicle he was shot multiple times -- if that's correct not sure what training prevents that.... but as I indicated earlier this is just at this stage 'a report'. It could be mixed up or completely wrong..
TIE A BLUE RIBBON TO YOUR CAR AERIAL TODAY TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT... Flags around the nantion should be halfmasted also both tomorrow (Tuesday) and on the day of his funeral. (We saw how the Poms did it, unfortunately I think we are too casual to be the same...)
Lastly, Rest easy Brett, your duty and your job is done mate and the 'thin blue line' will take up your duties from here - your family will remain for ever part of the blue family.
Bretts name will be included on the National Police Memorial in Canberra later this year on Police Remembrance Day (sept) with any others lost during the year... As at National Police Remembrance Day 2016, sadly both the National Police Memorial and the Honour Roll contain the names of 764 Police Officers who have been killed on duty or died as a result of their duties.
(This does not include those lost to suicide (ptsd) - if it did it would likely be 4x or more larger.)
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Latest stories say the guy used a machine gun to spray bullets at police in several vehicles. Police would not expect a man to be carrying a machine gun. I assume the gun was obtained illegally. This seems a good argument in favour of tight gun control to try to reduce the number of such weapons in the community. We don't want people driving around armed like that.
Police corner gunman after officer shot dead Police officer Brett Forte shot dead west of Brisbane, gunman contained - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) - via @abcnews
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