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    So...
    Back to the actual topic.....

    Progress? or stagnation?
    Roads?.. Where we're going, we don't need roads...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercguy View Post
    So...
    Back to the actual topic.....

    Progress? or stagnation?
    All bad I am afraid - Seller setup a roady with Pickards who seem happy enough to roady with out the plate... But I had a feeling and couldn't ignore it. I had to cancel the roady!
    I decided to take off the tires and inspect the brake disc's - Under min thickness - not road worthy at all, big lips. Also found slashed tire sidewall on one of the rears and found the braided brake lines
    had been rubbing on the wheel weight on the drivers side - almost through the braid.

    tire1.jpgrubbed1.jpgbrakelines.jpg

    After finding this am I now seriously not happy - and I will be calling all suggested agents etc.

    Thanks for all the posts. The guy wont even reply now - happy he got his 12k. Hope his dodgyness comes out for all to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I read that surveys had failed to find any difference between the typical state of roadworthiness of vehicles in states with and without annual roadworthy checks. Nor had annual inspections been shown to reduce crashes.
    This is an interesting article. One point is that vehicle inspections tend not to find brake defects unless rolling road equipment is used.
    VEHICLE ROADWORTHINESS AND ACCIDENTS
    When I bought the D2 form a guy in Tassie and I enquired if it had a road worthy, he said "what's that?" I seemed our southern relatives don't do inspections on disposal or acquisition. I registered it to another Tassie address I had did the transfer at the local booth where they do all the rego stuff. Then took it over on the boat back to Vic.
    In Vic I didn't need to get a roady worthy as I was bringing a vehicle in from interstate in my name with interstate rego.
    It VIC roads, they only weanted to make sure the VIN and Engine numbers matched the vehicle, that was all. They took the Tassie plates and I just paid the Vic rego and the price of new Vic plates.
    I was a bit bemused that we in Vic have to do RWC when we sell or acquire a car before it can be legal driven on the road.
    A mate form QLD moved down to Vic recently and he was in a panic trying to get a RWC done, then I sent him the link to Vic roads and he didn't need a RWC to register it in VIc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares View Post
    When I bought the D2 form a guy in Tassie and I enquired if it had a road worthy, he said "what's that?" I seemed our southern relatives don't do inspections on disposal or acquisition. I registered it to another Tassie address I had did the transfer at the local booth where they do all the rego stuff. Then took it over on the boat back to Vic.
    In Vic I didn't need to get a roady worthy as I was bringing a vehicle in from interstate in my name with interstate rego.
    It VIC roads, they only weanted to make sure the VIN and Engine numbers matched the vehicle, that was all. They took the Tassie plates and I just paid the Vic rego and the price of new Vic plates.
    I was a bit bemused that we in Vic have to do RWC when we sell or acquire a car before it can be legal driven on the road.
    A mate form QLD moved down to Vic recently and he was in a panic trying to get a RWC done, then I sent him the link to Vic roads and he didn't need a RWC to register it in VIc.
    Thanks for the info roverload. I had been clued in to this recently as well. The only worry I have after that is coppers pulling a check for the mod plate? From what I can gather VIC requires the car to have the mod plate on it at all times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz0R View Post
    Thanks for the info roverload. I had been clued in to this recently as well. The only worry I have after that is coppers pulling a check for the mod plate? From what I can gather VIC requires the car to have the mod plate on it at all times?
    When did that rule come in?

    As I said before, Mine doesn't have a mod plate. I always thought that was a Queensland thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    When did that rule come in?

    As I said before, Mine doesn't have a mod plate. I always thought that was a Queensland thing.
    I can only go off what information I am gathering; I am on the phone to the vic cops asking the question.


    "modification plates in QLD, is that they must be affixed BY THE APPROVING OFFICER - as in, the person who is taking responsibility for the modification.... and it must not be removed. Ever. Even if the modification is reversed or removed... in which case ANOTHER plate must be affixed, which does not obscure the previous plate....

    Since 1 May 2013, the Code of Practice: Light Motor Vehicles is no longer an approved code of practice for light vehicle modifications and no Approved Person is accredited to issue certifications under this code.
    From 1 May 2013, the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification and the Queensland Code of Practice: Vehicle Modifications are the approved codes of practice for light vehicle modifications

    issue of a modificaion plate which has been removed from the vehicle (if it actually existed in the first place) or remains non-affixed... That will get you fined."

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    This seems to be the link to the details of modifications in Qld.
    Light vehicle modifications (Department of Transport and Main Roads)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz0R View Post
    Thanks for the info roverload. I had been clued in to this recently as well. The only worry I have after that is coppers pulling a check for the mod plate? From what I can gather VIC requires the car to have the mod plate on it at all times?
    Razzor what I wrote would not apply to you, as you are a Victorian trying to get an interstate registered vehicle in your name here.
    What I was pointing out is, if you were an interstate person who moved to Victoria and brought your interstate registered vehicle in, then you would not require the RWC.
    In my case I had a Tasmanian address I could use, have the Tassie plated vehicle registered to my Tassie address, then bring it over and register it at my Victorian address without RWC and I had proof of ownership in my Tassie address. The vehicle was not changing ownership.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz0R View Post
    I can only go off what information I am gathering; I am on the phone to the vic cops asking the question.
    There's your problem. You're not talking to the correct authority.
    Vicpol are not responsible for registration and licensing. You need to talk to Vicroads.

    My advice:
    Go to a RWC inspection centre. Get a RWC. Do not mention Mod plates. If the inspector brings the subject up, tell the truth, there were no Mod plates. What can they do? They will either issue a RWC for the vehicle or not issue a RWC for the vehicle.
    Take the car to Vicroads with the receipt, RWC and application form. All the details should be on the computer.
    If, and I mean "IF", they ask about the Mod plates, tell the truth, there were no Mod plates.
    What can they do? They will either register the vehicle or not register the vehicle.

    If it does not go well, then get in a knot about it and ask questions.

    As I said before, I have a Series 3 on a RRC chassis. It has an engineers report on file at Vicroads. There were never any Mod plates attached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz0R View Post
    I can only go off what information I am gathering; I am on the phone to the vic cops asking the question.


    "modification plates in QLD, is that they must be affixed BY THE APPROVING OFFICER - as in, the person who is taking responsibility for the modification.... and it must not be removed. Ever. Even if the modification is reversed or removed... in which case ANOTHER plate must be affixed, which does not obscure the previous plate....

    Since 1 May 2013, the Code of Practice: Light Motor Vehicles is no longer an approved code of practice for light vehicle modifications and no Approved Person is accredited to issue certifications under this code.
    From 1 May 2013, the National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction and Modification and the Queensland Code of Practice: Vehicle Modifications are the approved codes of practice for light vehicle modifications

    issue of a modificaion plate which has been removed from the vehicle (if it actually existed in the first place) or remains non-affixed... That will get you fined."
    Well the cops were not very helpful at all... the answer they gave was - depends on the cop - generally as long as all number match the rego they dont seem to care.
    Talk about gray area's.

    Driving me crazy. At the end of day I have to pay out for a heap of things to get the roady done - pray that gets done and finish the transfer in to my name.

    Thats going to set me back abit to get that done and replace the extend brake lines that are damaged. Someone asked me today with the situation - what would I be happy with as an out come.
    Which made me think - because my initial thoughts are - have it the way it was promised, in road worthy condition. The only reason I didn't force that issue is because for vic reg I need a vic roady.

    But it got me thinking - at what point would I be happy?
    This is what I came up with;

    • Mod plate to be delivered to me no matter what
    • 2k back to me so I can fix everything and get the RCW
    • get it up on a hoist and test the transfer case and diff lockers


    It was an interesting question and not one I had really thought out. Having been a seller for many motorcycles and cars I always ask and tell the buyers to please call if they have any problems or are not happy.
    And have never had one come back. So I thought, if one did - what would I do? And my answer is I'd make good on it. But can I really expect the same?

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