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    WIN10 Creators upgrade is driving me nuts

    Has anyone else on the forum had misery with this upgrade I think 1703.

    I have 1605 and my computer has unsuccessfully been trying to install it for a couple of weeks now, and created havoc .
    I gather this is a common problem by the number of posts on the Microsoft forum.

    My problem is that the update app says "we cannot install as other updates are trying to install"

    I have used the update troubleshooter from Microsoft, run through SFC,chkdsk and Scannow several times and the latest time Scannow wouldn't finish and stalled at 40%.

    The only remedy that has worked is to do a System image before Microsoft started downloading the upgrade and then to disable automatic updates.( which I was surprised to find you can do)

    The symptoms of the problem is that suddenly the computer slooooows right down taking 10 minutes to boot and minutes to open apps, and will not open Edge at all, as it just stalls at the blue screen. The Task Manager shows everything rosy but the bloody computer doesn't work!
    I have also tried the Norton and McAfee dismount utilities as suggested by Microsoft, as my computer may have had one on in the past , but no go.

    I did a clean install of Win 10 in February and It is a PITA as you have to reinstall every non Microsoft app so I don't want to go there again.

    Any nice simple fixes out there?

    I would like to re enable auto updates at some time to fix any vulnerabilities, but at the moment Microsoft are not my favourite company. And how do I find out when they have fixed the bloody upgrade?

    Regards Philip A

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    Have you tried the installation media tool instead of an online update.
    Could be that the online update is baulking when a connection issue or whatever arises???(dunno, just guessing).

    Anyhow ...

    Windows update site

    It's fairly obvious what's what.
    One button simply updates you online, but instead hit the [download tool now] button instead.
    It'll download the MediaCreatoionTool exe, and when you run this executable, you need to have a spare USB thumbdrive read to go, the rest is automatic.
    First it will download the required files, that took me about 10 mins on a cable connection.
    Then it takes about 5 mins to create the bootable USB thumbdrive.

    You can reboot your PC to get the USB thumbdrive to autoboot itself, but no need.
    Just navigate to the USB thumbdrive's location in Windows Explorer, and double click the setup.exe file and it'll start there and then.
    Takes you back to the update process, but this time it's not online but obviously located on that USB thumbdrive.

    Personally I preferred it when M$ allowed (easier) access to their ISO files directly, and you could create update media from a host of all their update files, and/or integrate them into one single installation media.

    anyhow, if you're having trouble with the online/live updater .. maybe try this MediaCreationTool method.

    hope that helps.
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    Quick tip!

    It's not a quick update process. Make sure you have plenty of time from downloading the tool to setting up the USB thumbdrive to installing the update.

    I reckon the 'update' took close on an hour or so.
    Looks like it's reinstalling Windows fresh, but as long as you have the 'keep files' option enabled, it's an update.
    It'll probably be a fresh install if you don't enable the 'keep files' option.

    PC rebooted about 3 x during the update, very slow to update whilst in the pre boot menu.

    Then once the PC has fully booted, you get into the log in screen and almost ready for Windows .. you're back into a config screen.
    Config to enable/disable some privacy settings. I turned them all off(enabled by default).

    Then you DON'T!! ... get into Windows again, as it then installs more 'updates'

    So a few more mins of updates, which I think must be the 'Creator' features such as the 3D drawing tools and stuff, as when the PC finally boots and allows you to use it, a window describing the new features is what you first see.

    Only annoyance for me is the incessant infestation that software vendors think they have a right to allow themselves on your personal space.
    They added a 'Mail' tool in the taskbar.
    I did delete it, as I use Thunderbrid for my mail.

    For me, the only obviously noticable change is the new Security/Defender tool.

    In settings you now get a new Gamebar feature. I just delved into it to turn all that carp off. (not a gamer).

    Otherwise it's pretty much as it was.

    I had a bit of a play with the #d Builder tool a while back and found it was 'fun' for a few seconds or so, as I'm not really into building 3D worlds or things.
    But I'll have a look at the 3D Paint program when I get a chance at some time.


    The other point to note about doing the update via the MediaCreationTool is that if at some point later down the track you require a reinstall due to whatever reason, if you install using your original media you're back as square1, and need to do the updates all over agaiin.
    At least with the MCT method, you'd have an updated system to start with for any re-install, and then only the smaller incremental updates/patches to annoy.
    Arthur.

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    MCT is good for a lot of reasons

    worth learning to use.

    i had one box here yesterday i had attempt a clean install on three times to get a stable load ...

    each iteration of 10 takes more power away from the user when things goes arye

    enjoy!

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