Thread: AFL "Scandal"?!

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I wasn't talking specifically about the AFL women, but it happens.
I remember an older bloke who hired a younger woman to work in a department whose head reported to him. Within a year they were having an affair, until his wife was told and the excrement hit the fan. Not long after the younger woman resigned.
In another case a bloke who was a contractor to a large organization hired a younger personal assistant. Soon after her duties expanded to require regular working late. His wife found out too. The wife divorced him and the younger woman resigned. I heard the two women had some tearful discussions about him. He later went bankrupt and I heard the ATO is still after him for a large sum.
Obviously, some office affairs do work out well, but plenty don't.
In the Channel 7 case the woman is making some big claims against him for failing to deliver on compensation for her losing her job, and I read he is accusing her of breaking a confidentiality agreement. I don't know the truth, but he is backed by a billionaire and she is on her own, so it's certainly lop-sided.

So in this case , the women haven't come forward with any claims of being pressured/threatened/bullied , and its been public knowledge for a while now , so one would have to assume they were a consenting party to the affair. If that is so , then they should suffer the same fate as the other party - regardless of who was the higher up the tree.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander .

The example's you give are the exact thing I have said all along, those people were not in the public eye and therefore fate dealt the hand it did, not the media. The AFL just crumbled to the media hype.

During my fishing career ,I seen more flings than I care to remember , and I seen both genders playing the aggressor, not just the male.

Cheers Ean

Originally Posted by Pickles2

Like I said, if the star captain of an AFL team was the man, would he be stopped playing?.....Yeah right!
Pickles.

A certain former North Melb great comes to mind comes to mind....

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I wasn't talking specifically about the AFL women, but it happens.
I remember an older bloke who hired a younger woman to work in a department whose head reported to him. Within a year they were having an affair, until his wife was told and the excrement hit the fan. Not long after the younger woman resigned.
In another case a bloke who was a contractor to a large organization hired a younger personal assistant. Soon after her duties expanded to require regular working late. His wife found out too. The wife divorced him and the younger woman resigned. I heard the two women had some tearful discussions about him. He later went bankrupt and I heard the ATO is still after him for a large sum.

I would like to see the news articles/court reports of these examples.
In all my working years in large organisations, I have never seen a senior member of an organization take advantage of a junior member as you describe. I have seen many office relationships but they have all been consensual.

It's rare for a woman to make a formal complaint so you are unlikely to see cases like those reported.

C'Mon Disco, stop trying to "Defend the Undefenceable".
You apparently haven't worked in environments where this goes on.
My own daughter "ënlightened" me, many years ago. She used to socialize with her friends at some of the bigger, well known, clubs in Melbourne, and she said the way that women would literally "throw" themselves at football identities was unbelieveable, "shameless" was the term she used I think.
No-one is even attempting, not even the AFL, to place any blame here, they can't because there is none to place, they are simply attempting to be moralistic, whilst at the same time not even giving any sign of placing the same sort of punishment on their players who literally get away with anything, repeatedly,...ya can read it in the media virtually every day,....this is simply moralistic hypocracy at its finest.
And where is the quite correct criticism from the AFL to these women about going out with a man they knew to be married.
I'm all for fairness, but this is so one sided & hypocritical, it's a joke.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

It's rare for a woman to make a formal complaint so you are unlikely to see cases like those reported.

And where will I find the published statistic for that? I would like to review them. Put them in context.

When did I say that didn't happen? I have seen the women queued up outside football training camps, for example.
However, the AFL and Channel 7 incidents seem to be different.
What is interesting is when men are busting to make excuses for the men - boys will be boys - and blame the women.
The fact is, it's not about gender, it's about power. It's not one-sided - it goes both ways.
When a person (male or female - it does happen) uses that power to coerce those without power to do what they want then it's wrong.
I don't see anyone blaming child sex victims for being abused - it's the abusers who are condemned. Same principle.
Most males just don't understand how many women feel about this, I think.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

And where will I find the published statistic for that? I would like to review them. Put them in context.

How could there be a published statistic for something which is NOT reported?