Thread: From the ground up?

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

How many engines ( and which ones) have LR (not Jag) designed from scratch,,
and were they a success?

As a total ignoramus, I'll suggest TD5, (possibly the latest Ingenium? or is that Ford) and the about 2 litre petrol and diesel variants as found in the series might be potentials.

Let the gurus commence!

Who designed the Tdi's?. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

Who designed the Tdi's?. Pat

Didn't they evolve from the Series diesel ????

I'll put up a few-2.25 petrol/ diesel, which grew into 2.5 lt diesel which I think morfed into the Tdi. I may stand corrected on the last point though.

Weren't the Series engines, apart from the 2.25 diesel, designed for Rover cars and utilised in Land Rover?

The series 1 and the six cylinder variant that appeared in six cylinder Series 2a and 3 were designed from scratch by Rover, patents dating to 1940. The Series 1/2 2.0 diesel was designed from scratch by Rover, and evolved into the 2.25 petrol and diesel, 2.5 petrol and diesel, and Tdi 200 and Tdi 300, the last two with some outside input from, I think, VM.

The TD5 was designed from scratch as a family of 4-5-6 cylinder engines, but with the BMW takeover the five was the only one to see production.

All of the above were quite successful engines. Also designed in house, but not appearing in Landrovers was the four cylinder engine used in the Rover 2000.

Since then the only engine designed in house has been the current Ingenium range.

Landrover have, most famously used and extensively modified the alloy V8 design bought from Buick, and have bought in engines from BMW and Ford.

If you want to go back to early days, I think I am correct in saying all Rover engines post WW1 up to post war were designed in house.

It is difficult to say any of the in house engines put in Landrovers were not a success, although there were some issue with the first turbocharged 2.5 diesel. All engines have some issues, but it is hard to say any of them were not successful. The most successful would have to be the family of engines that started with the 2.0 diesel in 1955.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Weren't the Series engines, apart from the 2.25 diesel, designed for Rover cars and utilised in Land Rover?

They certainly look like it Ian. I completely stripped and rebuilt a P6 2000 SC. back in the late 70s. I have no idea how successful they were but I thought it was a beautiful piece of machinery and, as I said looked a lot like a series motor.

Maybe the only measure of success is the number built,,
but as sales increase is this even true,,


a lot like football players from different era's, hard to compare,,,