Thread: Help contacting Friedrichshagen Germany!

Try this link...

Its a translated page using google translate...

Google Translate

If it dont work, I could copy it and send to you...

Also have the timeline which may shed some light... Another thing I'll include is a contact... English is taught to a lot of Germans so you may have luck phoning the Church contact...


Graveyard

Peter-Hille-Str
12587 Berlin, Germany
Manager Cora Prenzlow
030-6 45 18 37
verwaltung@friedhof-friedrichshagen.de
Office hours: Mon-Wed 9-13
Public: S3 Friedrichshagen
Tram 60/61 market




Chronology of the Friedrichshagen cemetery

1753
Foundation of the Friedrichshagen settlement
1765
Mention of the oldest cemetery behind the seaside garden
Around 1820
Renamed the "Totensteig" to "Kirchhofsweg to Köpenick"
1828
Overfilling of the old churchyard with about 30 deaths per year
1831
Donation of 6 acres of Köpenick Forestry by King Friedrich Wilhelm III. For the construction of a new funeral parade
05/17/1832
Solemn inauguration of the new cemetery
08/22/1832
First burial: Arbeitsmann Wilhelm Kühne
1835
Closure of the old cemetery; 1894 Reconstruction of the bones found during the construction of the school to the new cemetery
1860
Restriction of the new cemetery with a hedge
1879
Confirmation of the cemetery order by the Royal Government in Potsdam: a grave site costs 2 - 18 marks, the fee for a grid 3 - 6 marks
1881
Renaming the "Kirchhofsweg" into "Kirchstraße"
30/10/1881
Solemn consecration of the first cemetery expansion
09/07/1898
First burial on the second cemetery extension
1904/05 Construction of a small cemetery chapel
1905
Renamed "Kirchstraße" in "Schulstraße" after the construction of the Realgymnasium
1912
Cultivation of a coffin cellar to the cemetery chapel
1915
Cemetery extension (according to burial commissioner)
12.91926
Solemn inauguration of the expanded and newly designed cemetery chapel (architect: Friedrich Brinkmann)
1934
Construction of the cemetery portal for the main entrance in Assmannstrasse (architect: Friedrich Brinkmann)
1938
The new cemetery system came into force according to the pattern cemetery regulations of the National Socialists. Only the deceased from Friedrichshagen, Hirschgarten and Ravenstein, and no "foreign" corpses were buried
1945
Grabanlage for the victims of the Second World War to the left of the main portal and the re-embedding of many war victims buried in the surrounding forests to the cemetery
1947
1 cemetery attendant, 9 graveyard workers, 6 funeral carriers, 5 villagers and 2 gardeners were in the cemetery
1951
4 cemetery workers, 2 gardeners and 2 casting women were working in the cemetery
1952
Temporary injunction against further earth burials due to an objection from the large Berlin water and drainage works from a hygienic point of view
1954 Cultivation of a living space to the economic building
12/1960 Moved into the new house built according to designs by Fritz Oellerkings
1962 Completion of the waiting room, renovation of the chapel
1963 Installation of new burial fields (Block I - V)
1981/82 Expansion of the personnel house with a sanitary tract and today's office
1987 Commissioning of a chiming in the open bell-chair
1988 Establishment of an umbrella organization
1991 Renovation of the cemetery chapel
1995 The graveyard in its entire complex, including selected individual features, is a monument to the memorial list in Berlin


The chronology was compiled by Beate Nündel in May 2003

Let me know how you go...

just an update,

Wraithe has starred here adding the above info and sending even more via PM.

Obviously, because they were bombing Berlin at the time of their death, this is a sensitive enquiry to make within Germany (and fair enough too!).

I have sent this request off (translated by google translate - (which could be dangerous in itself!) -= so I put English translation at base of email!!)


Dear Sir or Madam,

I contact you today with an enquiry to try and locate the final resting place of some fallen servicemen from 1944.
It is certainly a long time ago so I am very hopeful that you have records that may assist.

Please forgive any errors I make as my enquiry is being typed using an internet translator!

I am searching a number of War dead from World War 2.

In particular for Flight Sergeant Colin Eric TREBILCOCK, RAAF , 417678

(a bit about Colin -= RSL Virtual War Memorial | Colin Eric TREBILCOCK )
(the Royal Australian Air Force flight accident report (only recently scanned to public access) is 88 pages long with the detail about "FRIEDRICHSHAGEN" mentioned as a burial location hence this enquiry-=
It mentions that due to errors by the "grave relocation unit" these men were not recovered from here before the area was restricted by the Russian Military shortly after the war. )

Colin was tail gunner in a Halifax Bomber (Halifax II -= serial HR952 with an MX prefix) other crew believed killed and buried at same time are:-=

Flying Officer Cyril LARGE, 151473 (RAF)

F/Sgt (NAV) John Gordon HODGKINSON 1393662 (RAF)

Sgt (W/Op) Rueben MARTIN 1579977 (RAF)

Sgt (M/Gnr) George ARMSTRONG 1570702 (RAF)

Sgt (F/Eng) Kenneth Raymond CORBETT 1582857 (RAF)

Information*via International Red Cross Committee from German Military Authorities stated these men were buried with honour on 30-1-44 in FRIEDRICHSHAGEN Parish Cemetery.

Can we please confirm the burials and location we can get their graves recognised correctly?

Can you please advise if you can find any record of these burials and if the graves still exist?
Is it possible to get details and / or photographs of same if any exist?

I would be very grateful as we are making enquiries on behalf of family and friends of the above.

Thanking you in advance

hopefully we may get some result!

This is however much more than has been done since 1946 to locate and mark their graves, I understand that the amount of war dead, the fact it had been
shut off from "westerner" access by the Russians shortly after the war until decades later etc has contributed but... We are still actively seeking WW1 fallen
(as we should seek all our fallen to give the respect they deserve)

this enquiry seems straight forward (I'm sure that it wont be, but let me dream..) and if these men can be located then it will mean 6 less names recorded only on the Runnymeade Memorial in the UK.
(and in Colins case at the Australian War Memorial) -It may also mean one less enquiry for later generations to make...

Air Forces Memorial - Wikipedia
In the Wiki info is a photograph showing a panel with names, it is one panel of the 20,000_+ names recorded there. C.E. TREBILCOCK (the man for whom I started this search) is listed on the photographed panel!
(hows that for playing the odds?)


Cemetery Details

again, Thanks to Wraithe! great work mate!

In case anyone is interested

RSL Virtual War Memorial | Colin Eric TREBILCOCK


I shall keep this thread updated with any reply.
Digger

Isnt this what we have Foreign Consulates for?

no rudeness intended Digger,,

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

Isnt this what we have Foreign Consulates for?

no rudeness intended Digger,,

I thought you knew me better than that... 🤔


I figured best to make a direct enquiry,
If it was made official, I assume It would have to go through RAAF and then onwards
And possibly through all sorts of official channels to be told there is nothing to be found..

Start by collecting info/evidence then pass on for official action/ recognition...

That's my plan anyway!


And you'll have to work hard to offend me, I know discomuppet and have played
"Cards against normality" with him...

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

Isnt this what we have Foreign Consulates for?

no rudeness intended Digger,,

I would have thought the Aus embassy is the place to go if you have no luck.
cheers,
D

I think you have the town wrong, not near Berlin, but on a lake near Switzerland. The AWM is a good point for you to start.

Bombing of Friedrichshafen in World War II

Originally Posted by bob10

I think you have the town wrong, not near Berlin, but on a lake near Switzerland. The AWM is a good point for you to start.

Bombing of Friedrichshafen in World War II

Bob, I'm fairly sure I have the correct one thanks!

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There is no reply attached to the request.. (last page next post)

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Cheers