Thread: DITCH YOUR DIRTY ENERGY COMPANY

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Could you give us a rough estimate of the cost of these three lessons, Monetary, Human and Environmental?
Could you assure us that all possible lessons have been learned and that no further stuff ups will occur?

in australia: cost has been zero.

can never assure you of that, for nuclear or any technology, inclusion existing.

Originally Posted by Eevo

in australia: cost has been zero.

can never assure you of that, for nuclear or any technology, inclusion existing.

Ask not for whom the Cash Register cachinks. It cachinks for thee.

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Ask not for whom the Cash Register cachinks. It cachinks for thee.

I think its important as it differs betwwen countries

Originally Posted by johntins

Sorry, but every post you put up, everything you quote, comes from the ABC or similar, who quite clearly have an agenda of their own.
There are far wider views available than what you will find in CA, or on the ABC. One is that "carbon" is a black particulate matter, and that CO2 is a colourless, odourless trace gas that is vital to life on this planet. So vital, in fact, that life as we know it could not exist without it. The two things, "carbon" and CO2 are completely different, yet you refuse to see or acknowledge that. Your posts continually demonstrate that you haven't taken this on board.
I can link you to countless sites that may educate you on this topic, but I am not going to join up with CA to do so. Broaden your horizons, stop accepting the spoon feeding that you are getting now, and join the real world.

I've been pondering why you thought it important to say this:

One is that "carbon" is a black particulate matter, and that CO2 is a colourless, odourless trace gas that is vital to life on this planet. So vital, in fact, that life as we know it could not exist without it. The two things, "carbon" and CO2 are completely different, yet you refuse to see or acknowledge that. Your posts continually demonstrate that you haven't taken this on board.

Obviously, I do know the difference between carbon and CO2, and I know some things about the role of CO2, although I don't claim to be an expert I also know that CO2 in the atmosphere has roughly doubled in the last two centuries and is one of the major causes of the rapid warming of the atmosphere. So, I'm curious about why you thought your comments were important. Would you mind explaining, please?

humans are carbon lifeforms

Originally Posted by Eevo

humans are carbon lifeforms

Yep, but we would have to burn an awful lot of humans to make much difference to the atmosphere, I think.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Yep, but we would have to burn an awful lot of humans to make much difference to the atmosphere, I think.

dont need to burn them to make a difference to the atmosphere

An interesting read here:
Carbon dioxide in Earth's atmosphere - Wikipedia

A couple of points that stand out to me:

concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere have varied from as high as 7,000 parts per million (ppm) during the Cambrian period about 500 million years ago to as low as 180 ppm during the Quaternary glaciation of the last two million years

The increase has been caused by human activities, particularly the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation.

What we need to do is not only stop deforestation
Deforestation - Wikipedia

Madagascar has lost 90% of its eastern rainforests. As of 2007, less than 50% of Haiti's forests remained. Mexico, India, the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, Burma, Malaysia, Bangladesh, China, Sri Lanka, Laos, Nigeria, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Liberia, Guinea, Ghana and the Ivory Coast, have lost large areas of their rainforest.

but promote reforestation on a large scale. Let Australia be the lungs of the earth.

We should also be growing large forests for harvesting.
We could capture and store this carbon by building houses out of wood, not bricks and mortar.
We should move to a wood based economy. Build things out of wood.

our energy should be sourced from wood

and everything should be made from wood.