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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Probably because it's ok to use the phone when it's BlueToothed ?

    That's when I make most business calls, driving between jobs.

    And as Damien said, its a business phone, everything in our business is done through an App. (in this case SimPro Connect)

    JSA's, SWMS, all jobs are raised, purchase orders, job notes, hours, everything.

    Then I have emailing, texting, all to do with work, and at one point I was averaging 55 calls in and out a day.
    And I'm just one cog in a medium/large business.
    Exactly,i have had mobiles with hands free kits since they came out,around 1991,at a guess.

    All our vans have them.

    They are for calls only,nothing else while driving.

    I usually average 40 + calls a working day.

    I couldn't run a business efficiently with out using a phone like this.

    Everything the boys do is on their phones,JSA,time sheets,service reports,ordering parts,job photos,notes,etc,etc.

    But they are instructed calls only,if needed, while driving,nothing else.

    Thats how business in our industry runs....

    If we did it another way we wouldn't be in business.

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    Agree phone and hands free is part of business.....I travel a lot and probably reject majority of calls as even though you're Bluetooth you're not 100% focus on the road. At times I have finished the call and gone **** I'm here already and cannot recall the sections of road I've travelled...mainly when it's a high level intense call which takes a lot of concentration....I now reject these calls.

    I know our CFO always asks the person who answers the phone if there driving, if so do they have time to pull over to continue the chat, if not he asks the person to ring back when they are not driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Seriously?
    Either your Employer needs a kick up the arse or you do.
    If your Employer isn't allowing you enough time to complete your paperwork in the office or even at home then He/she is putting you and others in danger unnecessarily.
    Not only because you are not concentrating on your driving 100% there is the matter of the JSA's and SWMS's, These are Not just annoying documents that have to be filled out for legal reasons They are important tools to keep Everyone Safe on the job.
    A half arsed JSA or SWMS has the potential to kill people just as easily as someone making a half arse attempt at concentrating on his/her driving has.
    Bluetoothing text's and emails is something I have yet to see as well.
    My read on Rick's post is that only phone calls are done via bluetooth in the car. The phone is used to do the rest of the paperwork but obviously not whilst in motion.

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    It's people like us.

    At our work we can choose to take a call or not while travelling. My phone stays in the back seat so there's no chance of me using it - I can just answer incoming calls on the Bluetooth. I take most calls but if it is going to be a complicated call I'll advise the caller I'll call them when it's safe to do so - a lot of times I can get off a road I'm travelling down and pull over safely in a side street which I do a lot, but if I'm on the freeway or an a country road that has narrow shoulders etc, I'll wait until I'm at my destination and safely stopped before I call them back. Nothing is that important that it can't wait IMO.

    I can spend the majority of my day travelling at times, so emails, reports, etc can wait. I don't work at home after hours so anything I don't get done before 5 can wait - I don't care what my Boss thinks or says - he knows my thoughts on it all and thankfully I'm considered important enough to get away with what I do, because they know I'll just walk out if they give me the ****s. I'm in a lucky enough position that they need me more than I need them.
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    OK, for those who say driving whilst on talking on the phone via hands free is unacceptable, does that also mean stereos, UHF radios, and having conversations with other passengers should also be prohibited?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranga View Post
    OK, for those who say driving whilst on talking on the phone via hands free is unacceptable, does that also mean stereos, UHF radios, and having conversations with other passengers should also be prohibited?

    And street finders?

    They cause a lot of issues,people are trying to work out where they are going,then suddenly cut across three lanes, to duck down a motorway exit,as an example.

    Very dangerous.

    I see it happening all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatso View Post
    Well i fail to see how anyone can concentrate on driving when conducting business at the same time wether its blue Toothed or not , just becuase you can does not make it right and especialy not safe imho . How would it be if Pilots , Buss Drivers , Train Drivers etc were all doing stuff on their phones instead of concerntrating on their jobs i dont think the passengers would be too happy .
    They do, it's called 'radio' ! It's people like us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Seriously?
    Either your Employer needs a kick up the arse or you do.
    If your Employer isn't allowing you enough time to complete your paperwork in the office or even at home then He/she is putting you and others in danger unnecessarily.
    Not only because you are not concentrating on your driving 100% there is the matter of the JSA's and SWMS's, These are Not just annoying documents that have to be filled out for legal reasons They are important tools to keep Everyone Safe on the job.
    A half arsed JSA or SWMS has the potential to kill people just as easily as someone making a half arse attempt at concentrating on his/her driving has.
    Bluetoothing text's and emails is something I have yet to see as well.
    My comment re JSA's etc pertained to using the phone on site, not while driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trog View Post
    The way I see it if you are that important don't leave the office , or get someone to do the driving for you.
    Oh god, we have close to 40 people in the office now!
    I avoid that place of I can!

    If I need to do something serious like write quotes up I find a nice cafe, flip out the laptop, hotspot the phone and log in remotely.
    That way I don't get disturbed and have decent coffee on tap! It's people like us.

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    That's cool but being on the road all day I have had a gut full of those who can't do anything without a device. Can't seem to navigate without , or calling a friend etc. H ow did the world spin before all these gizmos came into being. Nothing like getting stuck behind some important person taking the call then driving like a drunk instead of passing up the call or letting the passenger deal with it. The phone is the tool , not the operator I hope.

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