Thread: It's people like us.

Google is useless. A recent industrial fire was erroneously said to be a company I have dealings with. In fact it has been totally separated in title , trading name and ownership for two years . So if details such as this aren't updated for the user what else on the system is wrong or out of date ?

Txting whilst driving should result in the phone being crushed on the spot. Issue the cops with a device similar to the can crushers, and let 'em rip!

Originally Posted by trout1105

JSA's and SWP's are multipage documents that the people on the job have to read and then sign, Pretty hard to do that over the telephone

I think the whole JRA/SWMS//SOP is in need of an overhaul......it's just an administrative process everybody does.

They the man at the top as once somebody has signed he is pretty much protected, I cannot remember the last time I saw somebody take the time to 100% read a document. They get the ****s with me when I say you could have read that document that quick.

In most big business it's all round a safer place the work, it difficult to do any safe act and by default we generally approach the task safely. But when you have humans involved accidents are going to happen.

I work for a mining company, go onsite at visit road infrastructure jobs, onsite at coal seam gas operations, warehouse facilities, logistics........and the whole system is just an administrative exercise......the mines inspector wasn't happy with my input to a discussion, he even rang the ops manager on his way out the gate, didn't have the balls to have a chat with me to clear up my views,he had plenty of opportunity over lunch

I think the whole JRA/SWMS//SOP is in need of an overhaul......it's just an administrative process everybody does.

I agree that for many signing on to JSA's, SWP's etc. is a load of bollocks and a PITA But in reality they are a bloody good tool for making people aware of the inherent risks that they can face doing any particular task.
Safety has come a LONG way since I first stepped onto a Minesite in the late 70's But people Still end up getting maimed and killed on the job, Personally I think that moving from 8 hr shifts to 12 hr shifts has a lot to do with this But that is just my own opinion.

Originally Posted by trout1105

Personally I think that moving from 8 hr shifts to 12 hr shifts has a lot to do with this But that is just my own opinion.

I've never worked in the mining industry but having lived in the Upper Hunter for fifteen years and having neighbour's, friends, etc all working in the mines, seeing the toll 12 hour rolling shifts take and having a friend fall asleep on the way home from his shift and drive under a semi I'm probably a little biased but wholeheartedly agree.

12 Hour shifts where constant work is carried out should be outlawed. My shifts are 12 Hour but a lot of that time is spent on stand by, unless we have a lot to do in that period, a factor which is not determined by us or our Employer.
We seem to be able to do the work as if we were completely fresh even though we might feel fatigued before and after a job. This also applies to driving home. In the 13 Years I've been doing this job I have had no occasion when I felt I might doze off at the wheel. I might sit in a chair in the wheel house and doze but the call to action sees me bright as a button. (Well, for me anyway.) However, if the work was constant for the entire swing (7 Days night shift 7 Days day shift.) I would be as useless as a Chocolate Teapot. It doesn't bare thinking about. Swings are 14 Days on 7 days off 14 days on 14 Days off.
I never text whilst driving. I refuse to even look at an incoming text, unless I think it might be urgent, in which case I pull over to read it. Phone is on Blue Tooth in the car but I think that is too much of a distraction also and keep calls to a minimum.

Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

Go to Japan , you'll love it, talking on their phones on public transport is not done, people won't talk on them either, offensive odors like BO are frowned upon, no one annoys you.. Big difference to all the loud mouths we have here that think their conversations are so important that the world wants to hear it also. IN japan they play games or text quietly on the public transport. When they find something funny they politely cover their mouth with their hand. The culture there is be polite and not be obnoxious to others

Would this be the very culture which has women's only carriages because the men were feeling them up inappropriately in crowded trains?

In some ways they are very polite and in others extremely inappropriate or perverse!

Originally Posted by tuesdayfox

And finally put GPS on each vehicle and electronically limits the speed of these machines. Say max speed 60 in city and 110 in the rest surface of our planet
How about that

How about NO for an answer.....

How about we make speed limits reasonable, sensible and reduce fatigue rather than induce it...