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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbjorn View Post
    We should have let them secede in the 1930's after their referendum. I was the WA Zone Manager for a heavy machinery company in the 70's. We used to call them the evenly balanced Australians. A chip on each shoulder.
    Yep and many want another crack at it. If WA did even now the rest of Australia would be bankrupt. You cant even get by without taking 65c in the $ of GST raised in this state, let alone mining royalties etc.
    Time to shut the border.
    Maybe we can get some ideas from Trumpy on how to build a wall.

    Hey I am originally from SA and even I can see WA gets the wrong end of the deal as far as tax distribution go's.
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    It's a national formula designed to ensure every state has a minimum level of essential services such as schools and hospitals.
    For most of its history the WA Government was subsidised by other state governments. The previous WA Government kept on spending and refused to balance it's budget. Now it's suffering the consequences.
    The formula is averaged over three years, so it won't be long before WA is back in the beggar's queue.
    It's NSW and Victoria which should be complaining because they have been subsidising the other states for a long time.

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    Even at the height of the mining boom WA only provided 19% of GDP - it was still NSW and Vic that was supporting the country. WA was a party to developing the GST payback agreement, if it didn't like it it should not have signed up. They have been bludging on the rest of Australia for a century and for a couple of years things go against them, GST wise they start sooking.

    Maybe in the boom times WA should have built a few more freeways so their truckies can get more tailgating and intimidation in.
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    NSW and Victoria have been supporting WA (and the other states) since federation - but this was accepted as a reasonable price to pay for doing away with land customs borders, and having a captive market for those two states growing, heavily protected, manufacturing industries.
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    Yes and now Queensland has joined NSW and Victoria in subsidising the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Even at the height of the mining boom WA only provided 19% of GDP - it was still NSW and Vic that was supporting the country. WA was a party to developing the GST payback agreement, if it didn't like it it should not have signed up. They have been bludging on the rest of Australia for a century and for a couple of years things go against them, GST wise they start sooking.

    Maybe in the boom times WA should have built a few more freeways so their truckies can get more tailgating and intimidation in.


    Took me a while to pick myself up off the floor after reading that one. But I guess it's the mentality I should have expected from someone living in the city that is the centre of parasites in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMKal View Post
    But I guess it's the mentality I should have expected from someone living in the city that is the centre of parasites in this country.
    Please explain.
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    WA secede?? What a load of crap...

    Read your history, the rest of Australia made loud and noisy promises for WA to join the rest as we where a self governed colony...
    Lots of promises including a railway, well thats about all the arrived, the rest was take take take... WA needs to pay for all the protection that is it hasnt recieved...

    Check out history, WA was going to be left for the Imperial Japanese to own, WA grows more serial crops than any other state, WA has more iron ore, more gold, more graziers, more foreign workers, especially from the East and more taken from here...

    Why do we recieve less returns, because we have less population, thus less votes to care about...

    If you dont want WA to be part of Australia, I would be happy to be seperated from the East... We already have the necassary industry to build our own Navy ships, and plenty of area to train a defense force, just need to put a wall up between Eucla and Kununara..

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanegtr View Post
    I think that common courtsy should prevail on the roads - unfortantly its not all that common. Car driver was fine to sit in the middle lane, however it would be nice to other road users to be using the left hand lane if possible.

    A few years ago I was driving home on a Sunday morning after a nightshift going up Greenmount hill. Bugger all cars on the road and Im doing 60km/h (the speed limit) in the LH lane. A truck (who is speeding) catches up to me and procceds to tailgate extremely closly. Truck driver is clearly putting the hammer down to get up the steeper section of the hill, but even thou the RH lane is completely void of all traffic he dosent overtake (trucks perfectly fine to use the RH lane here). Complete tool in my eyes and of course Im not intimidated by the move and I continue to sit at the posted speed limit. Later on when telling the story to some mates one of them gets in a rant and thinks I was in the wrong and I should have moved to the RH lane to let the truck overtake
    First mistake, Greenmount...

    East/west truck drivers are like the mouthy moron at the bar, thinks he owns the whole bar and can push anyone around... I can tell you, they get real upset when you overtake them going up a hill, because they are slowing you up too much, and they go ballistic when they find out you weigh twice the weight they do... Just nutters on that road, my advice(which is what I do) avoid Grt Eastern Highway, especially through the hills until Past Northam...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    If WA and QLD didn't spend so much money propping up the other States I suppose we could have afforded more than 2 freeways here
    Others like JD have mentioned similar and it is well understood by some that GST distribution is based upon a complex formula that involves revenue raising from other taxes like stamp duty and mining royalties with consideration of population growth and infrastructure needs and are expressed in relativities. It has to be stated that in every year both NSW and Vic have received less than the average relativity of all states GST revenue. In the same 18 year period Qld has only been less than the average for 4 years and is currently about 20% above the average relativity.

    The other state that is supposed to be "carrying the rest of the country" WA was at or above the average from 2000 to 2007 and only fell below NSW and Vic for the first time in 2008-9.

    None of the other states/trritories have fallen below the average relativity in any year since 2000.

    If you think that WA's share of GST revenue is unfair, perhaps you should be arguing that the NT, Tas, SA and the ACT should cough up some of their share.

    Source: Commonwealth Grants Commission 2017 Overview

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