Can the seller be also liable - Duty of Care?

Clearly says apart from B doubles, you can't tow more than one trailer - a B double combination is defined under the road traffic act (I'll find it later) and a B double combination excludes the use of a pig trailer behind a pig trailer, so back to needing a permit to do so which we know is possible although very rare.

And Bigbjorn - yes, that guy in Mildura tows a boat behind a caravan. It can be done, but you need engineering and appropriate licences which thankfully excludes most of the muppets out there towing their vans around. :)

This direction of the thread reminds me of a contractor we had working for us in Central Qld in the i960s. He had a bulldozer, a grader, a workshop trailer, a truck chassis trailer (with generator, welder, large lathe, drill press), a 4x4 supply truck, a fuel trailer, a caravan, and a Mainline ute. But there was only one of him, or occasionally an offsider as well.

He moved around with the whole lot strung together in the order listed - if he had an offsider, he split it into two, one with the grader, one with the dozer. His Allis Chalmers dozer would tootle along at about 30-40kph.

And I'll bet he did not have any sort of permit either. In fact, I think the only registered vehicle was probably the ute, maybe the truck. But, of course, he avoided main roads!

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Clearly says apart from B doubles, you can't tow more than one trailer - a B double combination is defined under the road traffic act (I'll find it later) and a B double combination excludes the use of a pig trailer behind a pig trailer, so back to needing a permit to do so which we know is possible although very rare.

And Bigbjorn - yes, that guy in Mildura tows a boat behind a caravan. It can be done, but you need engineering and appropriate licences which thankfully excludes most of the muppets out there towing their vans around. :)

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For a start you would need a dolly and turntable in between trailers. What sort of brake proportioning system could be used? I wonder what roads his permit allows him to use?

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I read that as being specific to portable traffic signal trailers. I bet you would face serious obstacles getting a caravan plus boat and trailer approved.

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Typical of lots of things I have read recently, there appears to be a lot of misinformed opinion being expressed as fact.

Old Mate in Mildura may be able to use this rig legally But I can see all sorts of safety issues with this sort of set up [bigwhistle]

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Old Mate in Mildura may be able to use this rig legally But I can see all sorts of safety issues with this sort of set up [bigwhistle]

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I can see all sorts of safety issues with 99.99% of the vehicles on the road today.

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Maybe we need to ban all trucks and Mercedes from the roads.

I can't believe he got that approved by the notoriously difficult VicRoads.

I can see one design fault in that photo. Work out for yourself what happens under decelleration/braking.

I also wonder what sort of braking system is fitted. Semi-trailers and road trains have proportioning valves in their brake systems.

And that light boat trailer on the end of the string free to wander back and forth across two traffic lanes. What will it do under hard braking? would it come around and kiss the driver of the Cruiser?

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This direction of the thread reminds me of a contractor we had working for us in Central Qld in the i960s. He had a bulldozer, a grader, a workshop trailer, a truck chassis trailer (with generator, welder, large lathe, drill press), a 4x4 supply truck, a fuel trailer, a caravan, and a Mainline ute. But there was only one of him, or occasionally an offsider as well.

He moved around with the whole lot strung together in the order listed - if he had an offsider, he split it into two, one with the grader, one with the dozer. His Allis Chalmers dozer would tootle along at about 30-40kph.

And I'll bet he did not have any sort of permit either. In fact, I think the only registered vehicle was probably the ute, maybe the truck. But, of course, he avoided main roads!

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This sort of thing is not that uncommon even today on remote stretches of road where just one operator grades a stretch of road.
Most people are more than happy to see these blokes towing all their equipment behind the grader because the road is getting graded at last [thumbsupbig]

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I can't believe he got that approved by the notoriously difficult VicRoads.

I can see one design fault in that photo. Work out for yourself what happens under decelleration/braking.

I also wonder what sort of braking system is fitted. Semi-trailers and road trains have proportioning valves in their brake systems.

And that light boat trailer on the end of the string free to wander back and forth across two traffic lanes. What will it do under hard braking? would it come around and kiss the driver of the Cruiser?

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All hypotheticals. Do you have any evidence that support you assertions?
I suspect all approvals have been investigated and given by people in the industry who are qualified to do so.

VicRoads aren't hard to deal with at all - if you make yourself familiar with the rules and have all your ducks in a row, they are very easy to deal with - I've registers all sorts of things that were supposed to be difficult - I just made sure I had all the paperwork they wanted BEFORE attending. Those that find them hard to deal with are usually under prepared or trying to get something dodgy past them.

This rig in question was fully engineered so I'm guessing the brakes do what they need to do and it would have had to pass a brake test and swerve test to obtain a VASS so speculating on its potential flaws and dangers is just an uninformed guess unless your a VASS authorised Engineer yourself? No? Thought not...

People are always so quick to dismiss other people's ideas and tear them down just because they think they know better. I like this setup - the owner has obviously gone to great lengths to make it legal and safe but that's not good enough for some reason.

Or is it that he drives a Land Cruiser maybe... ;)