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  1. 2nd November 2017, 06:46 PM #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    I certainly respect the decision of the indigenous owners but I think this is an opportunity missed to educate people to the cultural heritage of the local peoples. I am sure it goes on already in the area but there is nothing like a climb to the top under strictly controlled conditions with indigenous guides - I guess along the lines of the Sydney Harbour Bridge Climb.

    I think they have miscalculated the thoughts of the rest of the population which will reinforce some negative stereotypes. While restricting access, using this "theme park" as a learning experience would enhance cultural understanding and reconciliation (but to be honest I am not sure what reconciliation actually means as under law we are all equal and some would say some more than others) .

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    This is what I would like to see also. I think in the last thread on this subject, I said the same thing too.

    Like a few others have mentioned, no one at all seemed worried about us climbing the rock when we were there in the late 70's, in fact, it was encouraged. We also had the fortune to "meet as such" an elder living in one of the caves who was introduced to us by another older aboriginal elder. We also had the privilege of being the first major group to walk through the Olga's

    The view from the top is beyond words as has been said, but I would have loved then, and would still love now, to be "taught/educated" in the history and culture of the area whilst being up on top.
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    There could be a myriad of reasons why climbing on the rock is being banned But using the excuse of cultural sensitivity to effect this ban is Hogwash.
    It could be politically motivated or it could be something as simple as the insurance premiums being increased But saying the entire rock is sacred is Bull****.
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    Things change i guess but when there a while back , climbed the rock and around the Olgas which at the time was no drama .

    There was one and only the one sacred place that we were asked not to go into at the rock , we walked past the site as the track at the time was around the base and passed by .

    At the time the aboriginal population at the rock had a government figure fluctuating from 6 to 40 people didn`t know that till i saw the report , there was a group of people outside the store mostly women and children that i remember and a number of dogs , we didn`t see anyone else where other than visitors like us .

    I had the thought that my memory may have been off because it`s a while ago but i found a
    House of Reps report from 1977 and it also covers earlier government happenings and proposals in the area , show the original way in and airfield etc

    I think i was very lucky to go when i did , think i would be disappointed if i return and as typed when there it was no drama about the climb like it is now .

    The little shrimp type things in the pools on the rock is something i remember .
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    There could be a myriad of reasons why climbing on the rock is being banned But using the excuse of cultural sensitivity to effect this ban is Hogwash.
    It could be politically motivated or it could be something as simple as the insurance premiums being increased But saying the entire rock is sacred is Bull****.
    Has anyone actually said that?
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLR View Post

    The little shrimp type things in the pools on the rock is something i remember .
    The blind albino fish are unique to ayers rock.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Has anyone actually said that?
    The initiation site has always been a No Go area But Not the rest of the rock, This climbing issue is a quite new development.
    Make of it what you will But giving the entire rock a sacred site status is something it never had before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    The blind albino fish are unique to ayers rock.
    I believe they have also been found in the Pilbara region as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    The blind albino fish are unique to ayers rock.
    Ayers Rock... you slipping back in time BobClimbing Uluru to be banned from 2019
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    The blind albino fish are unique to ayers rock.
    They must be sacred ancestor`s
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  10. 2nd November 2017, 07:37 PM #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    The blind albino fish are unique to ayers rock.
    The creatures are Triops on the top in the pools.
    The fish aren’t unique...
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