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Thread: My battered Defender: Update

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    JamesH Guest

    My battered Defender: Update

    Well, it was written off and the cheque is in the mail. Wreck was valued at $4500 so I bought it back. I have $9k to repair it before it starts coming out of my pocket. Which it will, I have to face it

    Went to see the panel beater to discuss ways in which we can keep the costs down. The bonnet can be re-used and the roof can be left etc. He seemed to think it was possible that the firewall could be repaired but thought it unlikely and that is gonna be expensive to remove and replace.
    He'll know more when he strips it back and can have a proper look

    The real issue is chassis damage and he wants to measure it up. Before he gives me a serious report on the damage costs. I told him I drove it 100ks home and it was tracking very well went straight down the road (seriously I think it was better! 8O ). Alledgedly if the damage was bad it would have been all over the road. My own guess having driven it home was that there was "something" different and a slight sense of tightness and it steered fine but just felt different almost like the steering was firmer. I thinking it will need some minor work there (is there such thing as minor chassis work?)

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    how fast were you going when you hit the rock!!!

    our panel beating workshop has a chassis straighting machine, not sure if the body needs to be removed or to what extent it can straighten a bend chassis, i'm sure somebody would have one over there

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    I was going in low range third or second. Not too fast. fast jogging pace? (I was in soft sand and taking it what I thought was conservative slow, safe and steady, clearly I was wrong) A thin ledge of limestone about 5 inches thick collected the car on the top left hand side of the bullbar bending and gouging it it and then peeled its way to just past the window sill eating aluminium like there was no tomorrow.

    This guy has a straightening machine so he say he can do it I am just concerned at the cost.

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    all i can say is good luck mate 8O

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    Been a nasty situation for you james. hope it all works out for you.

    Cheers

    ET.

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    Good Luck James.

    I'm no expert, but I'd be surprised if there is too much chassis damage given the speed that you were at; and it's been my experience that vehicles with bent chassis (or should the plural be chassii?) drive like crabs (although I've only actually driven two cars and one bike that had been thus affected)

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    Just out of interest and if it ever happens to me, on what basis did they value the wreck on?, did you off load all your accessories before they valued it? Is it based on what it would sell for at public auction?

    Ben '00 TD5 CC 130

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    The two cars I've had with a bent chassis was very noticable. Under braking they would pull to one side and if you let them steer they pulled to the same side. The bad one I had required 2 lanes to go strait at 80kmh 8O . It was the last trip the car did and it only just made it home after the accident.
    A friend bought a car and found the chassis bent. They just adjusted the front till it seemed ok unless you looked which is why my friend bought it.

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    James,

    It seems to me that the test of a bent chassis does not require rocket science.

    Merely a tape and a friend for good measure.

    First check dimensions:

    http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Foru...iewtopic&t=9845

    The impact on the fire wall may have imparted a load on the substantial outrigger and bracing that holds the firewall to the chassis in turn bending the chassis rail.

    FWIW my intuition tells me no chassis damage...the impact was too high and too slow..but I have spent nearly 50 years being wrong :wink:
    Mahn England

    DEFENDER 110 D300 SE '23 (the S M E G)

    Ex DEFENDER 110 wagon '08 (the Kelvinator)
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides/105691-one_iotas-110-inch-kelvinator.html

    Ex 300Tdi Disco:



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    JamesH Guest
    Hi All

    I am no expert either though sadly am on my way up a steep learning curve.

    My feeling is the gouging that damaged the firewall while being expensive and tedious to replace and repair was not structurally significant. If there is any damage to the chassis it would have been caused by the initial impact on the upper tip of the bullbar. Dr Hamilton, world reknown physicist says remember the steel ARB bar is bolted right to to the chassis and because it was the first point of impact it was the hardest and hitting high as it did it gave a good amount of leverage to work on the chassis. The bull bar is bent about 30 degrees so even though it was slow it still had a loaded defender behind it in low range. I was so taken by surprise by the event I was not off the pedal so while it was slow there was some momentum and some torque. Hence the large amount of visible damage whish absolutely flabbergasted me when I got out of the car and saw it.

    BEN: The wreck was valued by an auction house and yes my accessories (aux tank, reece tow bar, bull bar UHF everyting was declared on the policy) - the new bilsteins and the maxi drive rear axle was not declared. To be honest I don't think they paid much attention to all that though - I think they looked at all the panels and doors and bits and bobs and pulled a figure out their backside - did not even notice the $1000 fuel tank or the reece hitch. Having said that, I don't feel that the figure they gave was unreasonable.

    Incidentally they valued the car undamaged at just $14000! 1996 Defender with logbooks, 150k on clock, covered in fruit. If you see one like mine for that price - buy it. Add a thou for your trouble and sell it to me please.

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