Thread: How to lose your DRIVERS licence for a fine you've never been issued. - In WA

As I suspected.. Big Brother is alive and well.. tucked away in the morass of new legislation is the 'right' of the AEC and State Electoral Commissions to "Direct Enroll" you.. based on - drum roll - information shared from and by other govt. agencies. - Who are constantly cross referencing data.

Mystery solved.

Originally Posted by Gordie

That is why we are expected to change our address on our licence when we move house. But yes, there is the occasional genuine case of missing mail and in that case, as you advised, take it further.

Here in Victoria.
Here the address on your licence is your residential address, and to a lesser extent, the address where your vehicle is "garaged" and not necessarily your postal address. They won't accept a PO Box address as the primary address for a licence or rego, as they don't like you living in them, plus there is not enough room to "garage" your vehicle.

As for the failing to vote penalty, I wonder what they do if you are one of the few who have elected to never hold a drivers licence or drive/own a car? Maybe a prison sentence?
The way some of our so called Politicians are behaving/non performing these days, there should be a penalty for those who did vote for them.

On another note I once tried explaining to an ASIC employee who was obviously city based, that the "postman" didn't deliver mail to our house (residential address in a rural area), I just couldn't get the message across. I gave up in the end, way toooo hard.

Cheers, Mick.

Originally Posted by Gordie

That is why we are expected to change our address on our licence when we move house. But yes, there is the occasional genuine case of missing mail and in that case, as you advised, take it further.

Yeah I agree with that, but they maybe should have given him 24hrs to pay the fine and then maybe revoked it. I dont agree with drivers licences being revoked for fines that are not traffic infringement related. I know it is hard to get some people to pay fines, but not the answer either.
I know once I got a notice saying I had an unpaid fine for not voting, even though they were notified immediately of the reason. Never heard anything again after re-submitting the reason, but whos to know if it was cancelled or still out there?

Originally Posted by mick88

On another note I once tried explaining to an ASIC employee who was obviously city based, that the "postman" didn't deliver mail to our house (residential address in a rural area), I just couldn't get the message across. I gave up in the end, way toooo hard.

A work colleague had recently moved to Castlemaine. In the exercise of changing addresses, he was astounded with the amount of people who wanted tho know which capitol city Castlemaine was a suburb of. He actually lived in a suburb of Castlemaine which made it even more confusing for them.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

A work colleague had recently moved to Castlemaine. In the exercise of changing addresses, he was astounded with the amount of people who wanted tho know which capitol city Castlemaine was a suburb of. He actually lived in a suburb of Castlemaine which made it even more confusing for them.

easy to do if you dont live in vic. i had to look it up.

Originally Posted by superquag

As I suspected.. Big Brother is alive and well.. tucked away in the morass of new legislation is the 'right' of the AEC and State Electoral Commissions to "Direct Enroll" you.. based on - drum roll - information shared from and by other govt. agencies. - Who are constantly cross referencing data.

Mystery solved.

1 Have to admit, I didn't know that, apart from them always cross referencing each others rolls. I'd better let my SIL know, who until recently refused to enroll on principle after his dad was wrongfully imprisoned whilst he (SIL) was a much younger tacker.

2 Have you updated your AEC info for the "impending" by-elections for Fremantle etc? If not, why not, you know you need another fly!

Originally Posted by gavinwibrow

apart from them always cross referencing each others rolls. I'd better let my SIL know, who until recently refused to enroll on principle after his dad was wrongfully imprisoned whilst he (SIL) was a much younger tacker.

There is only one Roll - that is the one held by the AEC (Federal) - the States use this Roll they do not have their own. Yes if you have a rates notice, drivers licence, medicare card etc etc etc - automatic updates to the Electoral Roll will catch you up sooner or later though some of the reporting agencies are a bit slack.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

A work colleague had recently moved to Castlemaine. In the exercise of changing addresses, he was astounded with the amount of people who wanted tho know which capitol city Castlemaine was a suburb of. He actually lived in a suburb of Castlemaine which made it even more confusing for them.

There must be a lot of ineligible people on the roll. Back-packers, international students et al, all qualify for drivers' licences, car rego and phones etc., but not a vote in Australian elections.