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    Quote Originally Posted by Classic88 View Post
    Would you say the same if it was ruled in the courts that it wasn't genocide? As I said, it's not been settled either way. Can't have it both ways really.
    no

    the point being dodged, as much as the activists hate hearing it, is that in reality, the indiginous weren't treated as a special case, it happened to all that were judged, rightly or wrongly, to be incapable of bringing up children the way they thought they should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    no

    the point being dodged, as much as the activists hate hearing it, is that in reality, the indiginous weren't treated as a special case, it happened to all that were judged, rightly or wrongly, to be incapable of bringing up children the way they thought they should be.
    But the subject of this thread is about indigenous people. And indigenous people were a special case in that they weren't recognised as Australian citizens until 1967.

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    One of the beliefs behind the removal of indigenous children from their parents was the belief the Aborigines were an inferior race which would inevitably become extinct, so half-caste semi-white children should be removed to save them. That belief wasn't behind the removal of white children from their parents because of neglect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Classic88 View Post
    But the subject of this thread is about indigenous people. And indigenous people were a special case in that they weren't recognised as Australian citizens until 1967.
    and? thats got fixed.
    we learn, we fixed, we moved on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classic88 View Post
    But the subject of this thread is about indigenous people. And indigenous people were a special case in that they weren't recognised as Australian citizens until 1967.
    you keep moving sideways you'll eventually hit a wall
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    I am really surprised at the amount of "Waffle" in this thread coming from people that have little first hand experience and get the majority of their information from the net or newspapers.
    Get some real experience and look at ALL the past events with an Unbiased outlook instead of jumping on any particular bandwagon "Half Cocked" because it looks like it is a popular or "trendy" cause, There are plenty of "Sheep" out there following other peoples quests already as this doesn't require Any real thought or effort on the Sheep's behalf.
    If I wanted to talk to "Sheep" I would go out into the paddock and do so, I have NO interest or desire to talk to them on an internet forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    One of the beliefs behind the removal of indigenous children from their parents was the belief the Aborigines were an inferior race which would inevitably become extinct, so half-caste semi-white children should be removed to save them. That belief wasn't behind the removal of white children from their parents because of neglect.

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    Well said Mick, you're one of the few here who is not moving sideways or denying the truth.

    Many Aboriginal families are still dealing with the ramifications of the stolen generations. Disrespecting this fact and the significant differences in the experiences of Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal people in this and many other contexts is activism of the worst kind.

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    need more white bashing in this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    Well said Mick, you're one of the few here who is not moving sideways or denying the truth.

    Many Aboriginal families are still dealing with the ramifications of the stolen generations.
    and the others arent?

    how is it more significant for a person of any colour to have their children dragged away and fostered / adopted out?

    nuff said i think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    and the others arent?

    how is it more significant for a person of any colour to have their children dragged away and fostered / adopted out?

    nuff said i think...
    Its not more significant, but the reasons are entirely different.

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