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    Parking at the end of a cul-de-sac

    I live in a Cul-de-sac. At the end of the cul-de-sac some residents park their cars in the turning circle making it difficult to negotiate as it requires backing and filling to get around. In Queensland, it appears to be legal to park as they do, as I cannot dig up any evidence to the contrary. Besides my Defender (haha), I also notice that the Council service trucks have difficulty getting around.

    What is your view of this matter?

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    I think the only rule that would have to be complied with, is parking the required distance from a driveway entrance.

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    As difficult as it sounds, they need to be parked on the bitumen to be legal so pulling off the road to to park to give other road users room is actually illegal in most places.

    Can you back into your driveway to turn around - or use a nieghbours driveway? That's what I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    As difficult as it sounds, they need to be parked on the bitumen to be legal so pulling off the road to to park to give other road users room is actually illegal in most places.

    Can you back into your driveway to turn around - or use a nieghbours driveway? That's what I do.
    My driveway is a few houses from the turning circle so it only affects me when I have to drive down to turnaround so I park out on the street in front of my house. However, I also have people who park opposite my driveway. My Defender/motorhome is 6 metres long and it is almost impossible to back out when they are parked opposite my driveway. But that is probably legal as well.

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    It certainly is...

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    Yes, quite legal. How well do you get on with your neighbours? We all make sure that we don't park behind each others driveways on our end of the street, it just seems to be good manners and we all get on fine and talk to each other so this has been discussed. Even the rental accros the street with a group of young lads in it are cool about this and there can be 8 cars parked in the front yard there some evenings, but they still leave room for my next door neighbour to get her caravan in and out no dramas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordie View Post
    I think the only rule that would have to be complied with, is parking the required distance from a driveway entrance.
    I don't think there is any actual distance specified for driveways. The rules just state that you cannot "park or stop on a road in a way that blocks access to a path or driveway...". This becomes interesting in a cul-de-sac because often the angle around the curve means that vehicles can effectively "block access" without actually being parked across the driveway crossover. This used to happen in our street whenever anyone had a party.

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    Under Rule 208 of Aust Road Rules....
    The driver must position the vehicle so the vehicle does not unreasonably obstruct the path of other vehicles or pedestrians.

    But I would say if the cars are all parked normally, then it wouldn't be classed as unreasonable obstructing....

    And yes, re parking on footpath, in our street we used to run them up onto the path just a tad, to keep the road a bit clearer, until a few neighbours had fines left on their cars. Now we just clutter the street.



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    I have the same problem but with the added annoyance that people park in front of my property at each end of my camper trailer , so I cannot open it or move it without going to a neighbor and asking them to move their cars.

    One neighbor admittedly has asked as he perceives that his car is in less danger of branch drop there instead of outside his place, but the other has parked an old Toyota Crown (resto special so hasn't moved for a while) within 25Cms of the back of my camper and the son of the bloke who asked then parks his car directly behind the Toyota. There is room for the Toyota outside his own place next door.

    My driveway is angled on to the road because of the steepness and to get my camper out of my driveway I am forced to go to the end of the cul de sac to repark it or if I am leaving for a trip and you guessed it, cars and trailers are parked all over the shop, some at right angles almost to the curb. Last time I went down I had to drive up a driveway to straighten up the camper and reverse back.

    First World problems I know but it certainly makes working on my camper trailer a logistic exercise of ensuring people are home and have keys etc.

    My sprint with the rake when the vacuum truck comes to get rid of the huge leaf and bark buildup in the gutters is to be seen as there is no schedule and I have to rake the leaves/bark out from all the parked cars and my trailer as they build up even more as the truck cannot reach them.

    Regards Philip A

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    One neighbor admittedly has asked as he perceives that his car is in less danger of branch drop there instead of outside his place, but the other has parked an old Toyota Crown (resto special so hasn't moved for a while) within 25Cms of the back of my camper and the son of the bloke who asked then parks his car directly behind the Toyota.
    Quote Aus Road Rules 208(5) to them.....(5) If the driver does not park in a parking bay, the driver must position the vehicle at least 1 metre from the closest point of any vehicle in front of it and any vehicle behind it.

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