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  1. 26th January 2018, 09:06 AM #11
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    What sets us aside from robots, is that we are risk takers by nature, we are constantly making judgements throughout our day, assessing and reassessing situations without even knowing it...making split second decisions. Sometimes we are going to get it wrong. And when we are in a steel box hurtling past other steel boxes or obstacles at any speed above standstill, deaths will result from said decisions. More and more of those steel boxes on the road every year. Road toll will never reduce greatly, let alone be zero. Accept it. As alluded to on other posts, there are other things that kill us, which we can achieve reductions in.
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  2. 26th January 2018, 12:37 PM #12
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    We should never accept it...
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    We should always strive to reduce the number...Complacency is our biggest killer.

    We need to understand the risks. And educate.. in this case not by overwhelming government intervention though...

    Officially over 90% of MVIs and deaths are a product of the smallest of errors in judgement; not DUI or speed. Simple things, a sneeze, telling the kids off, changing a radio, something distracting off to the side of the road etc.

    Out here another factor is fatigue. We do a lot of work around managing fatigue.

    Tonight my 30 person Crew will be operating mobile equipment weighting up to 120t each. If the fatigue management isn’t in place bad things can happen!
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  3. 26th January 2018, 12:57 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    We should never accept it...
    (Spot the WHS hat)

    We should always strive to reduce the number...Complacency is our biggest killer.
    ... .... ...
    I suspect that the way our minds work we would consider a reduction of just one was worthwhile if that one was someone we loved.

    A reduction of 100 strangers would be less important.

    I'm not arguing about whether that is good or bad, but I'm pretty sure our brains are hardwired to think that way.

    One of the recent TV road safety ads is based on that notion.

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    approx 3000 each year die from suicide. never do you see that on the news.
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  5. 26th January 2018, 01:31 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    approx 3000 each year die from suicide. never do you see that on the news.
    They are killing themselves , not some innocent party taken out in a road crash through no fault of their own .
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  6. 26th January 2018, 02:04 PM #16
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    They are killing themselves , not some innocent party taken out in a road crash through no fault of their own .
    Most road deaths are single vehicle.
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  7. 26th January 2018, 03:11 PM #17
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    Road deaths cane be easily reduced. It would take an act of great political courage and the government probably would not survive the next election.

    "A most courageous decision, Prime Minister" in the immortal words of Sir Humphrey.

    Introduce much stiffer driver's licence testing and retest every 10 years. A skid pad test to be included and a written examination on road rules and safe driver behaviour.

    In a decade probably two thirds of drivers would be delicensed

    This would produce great savings in that extensive road works would no longer be required. The savings to be used to improve public transport to cope with the influx of non-drivers.
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  8. 26th January 2018, 03:37 PM #18
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    Agree with higher levels of training and assessment.

    However, as evidence states - over 90% of deaths by MVI are through a “brain fart” / distraction / lapse.
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  9. 26th January 2018, 03:39 PM #19
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    Not to mention that the lack of a licence doesn't necessarily stop the feral population amongst us from driving.
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  10. 26th January 2018, 03:46 PM #20
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    Not to mention that the lack of a licence doesn't necessarily stop the feral population amongst us from driving.
    Lack of social “conscience” and “contract” is a primary issue in Australia.

    Take Thailand - less than 50% on the roads have a licence.. not uncommon to see a 12 yr old ride out of school with a couple of mates on their scooter etc..

    What they do have is understanding of responsibility and tolerance..

    Not a lot of accidents over there considering the way the roads are..
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