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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post

    I think it comes down to How many $$$$$ you lose if you get hacked,,
    sometimes its more than that.
    ask hilary Clinton what she lost.

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    honour amonst thieves you say..

    if my memory serves me rightly, don't laugh...

    there was once an antivirus called AVP, it was very good 'most' of the time

    then one sunny morn, their american agent brought out their own anti virus, AVG

    funnily enough, one of the processes it ran was called avp.com

    i believe AVP took legal action, changed their name to Kaspersky, and AVG continued on unabated

    AVG was bought out by avast in recent times and it aint what it used to be and hasnt been for many years to be frank


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    the giveaway is anything you install that makes itself hard to uninstall isn't helping you....
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    honour amonst thieves you say..

    if my memory serves me rightly, don't laugh...

    there was once an antivirus called AVP, it was very good 'most' of the time

    then one sunny morn, their american agent brought out their own anti virus, AVG

    funnily enough, one of the processes it ran was called avp.com

    i believe AVP took legal action, changed their name to Kaspersky, and AVG continued on unabated

    AVG was bought out by avast in recent times and it aint what it used to be and hasnt been for many years to be frank


    PS
    the giveaway is anything you install that makes itself hard to uninstall isn't helping you....
    you are mostly correct.
    kapersky's first product was AVP
    the product, not the company, changed names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BathurstTom View Post
    I strongly agree! I worked in the IT field for many years and the uni at whih I worked would supply free AV software, but I found Microsoft defender to be the best. It's free, updates regularly and it works.

    Personally, I wouldn't touch Nortons with 10 barge poles screwed together.

    Tom
    Interesting as Norton has picked up everything where as every other brand I have tried as let some through at some point including Windows 10 Defender, McAfee, Trend Micro, AVG etc. I used to run multiple programs to test this including the latest McAfee that came with my HP Omen I bought 2 months ago.
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    I recently had a criminal call my bank through the deaf relay service quoting all my personal information while logged into my bank account. The only thing they didn't have was my mobile to get the 2-factor authentication SMS for bank transfer. They were requesting a change to the mobile number for the account. Luckily my bank called my mobile and shut it all down before they got anywhere serious. The moment it was shut down my email address was registered for over 1700 internet forums as punishment.

    I'm now using bitdefender (not to be confused with windows defender) including its safepay function for my internet banking activity.

    Be careful out there ...

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    I had Trend Micro but had a ransomware attack so flicked them and now use "Vipre".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    you are mostly correct.
    kapersky's first product was AVP
    the product, not the company, changed names.
    in my recollections, the word kaspersky never featured anywhere in the product or logo at that time in australia, don't know about overseas.

    the guy who was the australian agent and the europeans quarrelled over it right up until rod dumped avp for the other piece of crap, nod32, after they started trying to directly contact his clientele... about 1992/93 i would think

    thats when kaspersky started pushing his name i think you'll find.

    rod got very sick shortly after, went blind and passed away a couple of years later i believe

    happy to be proven wrong but i knew the guy pretty well as he lived a couple of suburbs away from me and we both ran pretty big BBS'es and met up fairly regularly at sysops breakfasts back in the day. As well as i used to sell it untill i partnered with command.
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    “What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” - Pericles
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    in my recollections, the word kaspersky never featured anywhere in the product or logo at that time in australia, don't know about overseas.

    the guy who was the australian agent and the europeans quarrelled over it right up until rod dumped avp for the other piece of crap, nod32, after they started trying to directly contact his clientele... about 1992/93 i would think

    thats when kaspersky started pushing his name i think you'll find.

    rod got very sick shortly after, went blind and passed away a couple of years later i believe

    happy to be proven wrong but i knew the guy pretty well as he lived a couple of suburbs away from me and we both ran pretty big BBS'es and met up fairly regularly at sysops breakfasts back in the day. As well as i used to sell it untill i partnered with command.
    no, thats sounds correct.
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    Interesting the negative views of Norton. I know it was pretty bad (resource heavy) back in the day but thought it had lifted its game. I have used it the last 4 or 5 years and had no problems. But maybe I should save a few bucks - at least on my W10 PC ( and wifes W10 laptop) - and not renew it and just use Defender?

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    Once had a computer with Mcafee pre installed on it. Was way back though, computer was running windows 98. But as posted when a anti virus is hard to remove it aint good. Made the mistake of trying to remove Mcafee. A reinstall of windows later and it was gone. I have windows 10 now so with it`s built in anti virus and a free anti virus called 360 Total security I have so far not had any issues.
    Cheers Hall

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