OMG

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tombie

Correction Bob.. people have died from Snatch Straps or Kinetic recoveries from a Tow Ball..

In the video you could do exactly the same recovering if it had a trailer attached and recovered via the trailer... the ball would experience exactly the same type of linear, non shock loaded recovery. Just like, well, towing!

Over run brakes on a 1999kg trailer would put more shock into the ball than the above recovery.

---

The general rule is to NEVER use a tow ball for a recovery.
It is stupid and bloody dangerous Full Stop.
If you haven't got a proper recovery hitch you can always take the ball off and use the hole to put a shackle onto it, Far Far better than using the towball.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by trout1105

The general rule is to NEVER use a tow ball for a recovery.
It is stupid and bloody dangerous Full Stop.

---

No it’s a blanket rule for numpties to prevent those who don’t have the common sense to differentiate risks.

Plenty of WHS policy is based on this same ideology.

Unlike the rest of the animal kingdom where the weak (physically or mentally) are culled from the herd making it stronger - humans strive for an L.C.D policy. Essentially lowering the average IQ of the species.

Unfortunately these individuals seem to be the most fertile.

In *this* video, in *this* application, the use of the towbar is perfectly acceptable and safe. Change to a kinetic recovery and that immediately changes.

Were they really winching using a snatch strap?
Lower tyres pressures were all that was needed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Were they really winching using a snatch strap?
Lower tyres pressures were all that was needed.

---

No... it’s a fixed, non-stretch strap (winch extension strap) - similar to those used in rigging.

And it was a DEMONSTRATION

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tombie

In *this* video, in *this* application, the use of the towbar is perfectly acceptable and safe. Change to a kinetic recovery and that immediately changes.

---

I have to disagree.
NO recovery is Perfectly Safe, There is an element of Risk in every recovery even using the correct gear and methods.
The use of a towball in a recovery is an unacceptable and an avoidable risk because it can be easily eliminated.
The use of a hitch receiver or a rated recovery point is the best solution But if this isn't available Simply removing the towball and using the hole in the tow hitch is Far preferable than putting this much strain on a towball.
I fully agree with you about the lack of common sense amongst the population So doesn't it make perfect common sense NOT to make a DEMONSTRATION video using a towball as a recovery point so that the "Numpties" amongst us don't think it is acceptable or safe.

Thanks. I'd never accept using a towball.

its a towball
not a snatchball

I have used the towbar minus the towball solution on a few occasions without any problems at all, Much safer than using the towball itself as an anchor point [thumbsupbig]

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Eevo

its a towball
not a snatchball

---

Towball, Snatchball = Rocketball [biggrin][bigrolf]

Seems to be some confusion here amongst some of the respondents - as to the differences between towing, and snatch recoveries.

Those confused best not take up climbing or abseiling as a hobby until the difference between a static rope and a dynamic rope can be clearly comprehended.