Holden - how long before the end?

Expecting quality from GM, when we know that quality isnt really part of the mainstream car market in the USA, . . . . .

I laugh every time I see Chevrolet badges on a Holden. I don't believe most people know how crappy Chevrolet is, compared to Holden.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

The VE/VF Commodore was already an Australian assembled Chinese car. GM bought the failing Korean car company (Daewoo) in 2001. By 2011 it was producing GM cars for the Asian market. I suspect, eventually, most of our GM cars will be coming from South Korea.

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Can't agree with you there, there was nothing "Chinese" about the VF.
GM cars from South Korea?....absolutely possible,.....I wouldn't have a clue,....there's a fair bit of stuff coming out of Thailand now too?
Pickles.

The Chinese have been assembling knock down kit Australian made Holden Caprices in Shanghai for many years now. Sold there as the Buick Park Avenue (and previously as the Buick Royaum). I saw hundreds of these things when I was over there, all black and almost exclusively the vehicles of Government / Party officials. I believe that they only have 4 cylinder engines, though not sure on this.

With the demise of Holden, GM Shanghai got Holden to design them a new model Park Royal, which they are going to build in Shanghai. There was some conjecture that a version of this model may have been sold back into Australia as the new Commodore before the Opel product was chosen. It still wouldn't surprise me to see a Chinese made Commodore here in the not too distant future.

The 2017 Holden Commodore will be made in China

My impression is that holden had been sourcing commodore parts from china for a long time. I was once specifically told their rims came from china.

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Originally Posted by BMKal

The Chinese have been assembling knock down kit Australian made Holden Caprices in Shanghai for many years now. Sold there as the Buick Park Avenue (and previously as the Buick Royaum). I saw hundreds of these things when I was over there, all black and almost exclusively the vehicles of Government / Party officials. I believe that they only have 4 cylinder engines, though not sure on this.

With the demise of Holden, GM Shanghai got Holden to design them a new model Park Royal, which they are going to build in Shanghai. There was some conjecture that a version of this model may have been sold back into Australia as the new Commodore before the Opel product was chosen. It still wouldn't surprise me to see a Chinese made Commodore here in the not too distant future.

The 2017 Holden Commodore will be made in China

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yes and also GM sold 70% of all their cars in China, more than what they sold in US domestic market.

What is interesting is that GM China is half owned by Chinese state owned company.

The Holden Cruze was Korean, and the locally built version was quite a reasonable thing. If it had been further developed and refined it could have been a good thing and exportable.

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Originally Posted by rammypluge

My impression is that holden had been sourcing commodore parts from china for a long time. I was once specifically told their rims came from china.

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Dont know about the latest models but the original wheels on our 2003 Statesman were ROH made in South Aust. I think they stopped using them in 2005.

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Dont know about the latest models but the original wheels on our 2003 Statesman were ROH made in South Aust. I think they stopped using them in 2005.

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When Holden stopped using ROH it was because they were sourcing from china. ROH is now closing, due to Toyota ceasing to manufacture in Australia.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

The Holden Cruze was Korean, and the locally built version was quite a reasonable thing. If it had been further developed and refined it could have been a good thing and exportable.

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It should've been, & it could've been,...bit it wasn't.
Let down by terrible engines & very poor assembly. The first engine that was just half alright was the 1.6L turbo which was introduced too late to save it.
Pickles