The title says it all :wink:
Like any profession there are good ones and bad ones....
Just finished skimming through a copy of 4x4 Australia (April edition) and noted that Ron Moon was reviewing a camp trailer (Cub Supermatic Drover 007). Overall the review was indifferent to the flip top camper.
I turn over a couple of pages and there is Ron, proclaiming on a full page ad, "...that for my money nothing beats Tvan"
There was no disclosure in the review that Ron endorses another competing product. Why did the editor get Ron to do the review, when he knew that he was endorsing a competing product? Why not get another staff member to do the review and avoid the conflict of interest?
You start looking through these publications and low and behold, these guys are endorsing everything that moves. Tents, cruise controls, swags...
You cannot be a reviewer and an endorser without your cred taking a pounding.
It seems to me, that at times the 4WD industry is very small world whereby key individuals will not let journalistic standards get in the way of good business.
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Noddy
- 'Kimba' ('02 Defender Xtreme 110)
- 'Ari' (1994 Peugeot 205GTi Classic)
"...we are all just earrings to the left of our parents, and they are all just haircuts to the left of theirs..."
The title says it all :wink:
Series 11A ex Air Force
1995 ES Discovery TDI
RIP 2006 Discovery 3
RIP 2004 V8 Discovery
RIP 95 Discovery TDI
RIP 1999 Freelander
RIP 1978 EX Army FFR
:roll:tis one of many reasons why i dont buy the overpriced glossy advertorials that they try to pawn of as magazines,normally just flick thru ,look at the pretty pics ,avoiding all the thoughts and ideas of paid journo's who are generally biased one way or the other and to hell with the rest,be it tojo,****an or rover(when only the best will do!!!)most times it aint brain surgery to pick a biased report shortly after starting in to it :roll:
You know why I read mags :?:
Probably not, want me to tell you :?:
Probably not :roll: but I will anyway 8)
I love the travel bits, I really enjoy reading about the places they go, especially the ones that involve locking the centre and not just traveling dirt roads.
If it wasn't for that I probably really wouldn't buy them, as much as I read the rest of the mag, it's the travel stories that I alway read more than once.
Everyone has biases...even journos, but normally you have your own standards and if they are not good enough, an editor who will prevent those biases from becoming too apparent or jeopardising the credibility of the publication.
I have read many articles before and thought they lacked 'balance' or were somewhat unfair, but never have a seen a piece of such poor journalism where conflicts have been so apparent.![]()
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Noddy
- 'Kimba' ('02 Defender Xtreme 110)
- 'Ari' (1994 Peugeot 205GTi Classic)
"...we are all just earrings to the left of our parents, and they are all just haircuts to the left of theirs..."
I buy 4wd magazines for the centerfold...... so that saves me a lot of money. :roll: :wink:Originally posted by Noddy
Everyone has biases...even journos, but normally you have your own standards and if they are not good enough, an editor who will prevent those biases from becoming too apparent or jeopardising the credibility of the publication.
I have read many articles before and thought they lacked 'balance' or were somewhat unfair, but never have a seen a piece of such poor journalism where conflicts have been so apparent.![]()
Having opinions is like an anus everyone has one but being paid to have one involves the taking on of responsibility and learning something about ethics.
That's why this place works well (not a proctology forum) as opinions can be expressed and providing facts are also delivered with the opinion we can make up our own minds.
Mahn England
DEFENDER 110 D300 SE '23 (the S M E G)
Ex DEFENDER 110 wagon '08 (the Kelvinator)
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides/105691-one_iotas-110-inch-kelvinator.html
Ex 300Tdi Disco:
Hmmm.. Ethics.... Conflict of Interest..... Editorial Control.......
Are we REALLY talking about 4wd Monthly???![]()
D4 SDV6, a blank canvas
When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was a jokeops:
I thought everyone new that journalists are not born........they're just the after-birth![]()
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I tend to just read the date on the top of the cover; and then check it![]()
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the above sums up my thoughts :roll:
2023 Defender 130 D300
SOLD - 2010 Discovery 4 V8
SOLD - 2008 Range Rover Vogue L322 TDV8
SOLD - 2006 Range Rover Sport L320 TDV6
SOLD - 2002 Range Rover L322 TD6
SOLD - 2002 Discovery 2 TD5
SOLD - 1997 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
SOLD - 1999 Range Rover 4.0 SE
Journalistic Integrity is a contradiction in terms, like
Government intelligence
Womens Lib
and ....the
Pedestrian Council
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I don't think I've ever seen an unbiased review, or one you couldn't pick holes in, in any 4WD mag.
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