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    An important question about Defender cooling sytems ... (Yes, it's general chat)

    Should the cooling system, when drained, produce volumes of what looks very much like mud ?
    Should the hoses be crispy?
    Should a steel pipe be rusted at the ends?


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    Mud....left over casting sand??

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    Vlad, there's this stuff called coolant that contains inhibitors to prevent corrosion, but it does have a finite life and the 'conventional' style ones will suffer silicate dropout when their useful life is over...An important question about Defender cooling sytems ... (Yes, it's general chat)

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    Should the cooling system, when drained, produce volumes of what looks very much like mud ?
    Should the hoses be crispy?
    Should a steel pipe be rusted at the ends?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
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    I have never drained an old neglected cooling system yet that didn't produce a significant amount of sludge. Coolant treatment was unheard of in the fifties and sixties and all sorts of folk remedies were poured into radiators to stop corrosion or plug leaks. Soluble oil was popular. Ground pepper, egg whites for leaks. Washing soda was used to clean dirty systems.
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    sludge....where does it come from

    I was astonished when I pulled down the fuel cooler on my td5 to find a reddish/brownish sludge or sediment in a large enough quantity to be concerned as to how it got there in the cooling system. I cleaned it all out of course but couldn't help wondering if there was more throughout the system.

    Subsequent new radiator/cylinder head and flushing probably removed all traces but I always wondered where it came from in a system that was never opened.

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    is why the greater being devised back flushing
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    sludge....where does it come from

    I was astonished when I pulled down the fuel cooler on my td5 to find a reddish/brownish sludge or sediment in a large enough quantity to be concerned as to how it got there in the cooling system. I cleaned it all out of course but couldn't help wondering if there was more throughout the system.

    Subsequent new radiator/cylinder head and flushing probably removed all traces but I always wondered where it came from in a system that was never opened.
    Probably mostly corrosion products from the metal parts of the system, plus breakdown products from the rubber parts, plus breakdown products of the coolant, and possibly some remaining casting sand.
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    Like I said "Asking for a friend" because I'd never neglect a cooling system so badly that I didn't even realise how bad it was.

    But just in solidarity with my friend, I've replaced all the relevant parts and coolant etc.

    You know, just in case.

    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    used to see some bad cooling systems in dozers working out in the bush. Topped up ever morning from the creek or the nearest puddle of muddy water. By the time you got the call that they were overheating, the mud would barely drain out, used to flush em out with a portable water tank and a high pressure water pump trying your best to do some sorta back flush, that was about what they got until they come into the workshop for a major. It may surprise some how ****ty some cooling systems work under with cast blocks, cast heads and large core radiators

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