Thread: SHOULDN'T WE BE SERIOUSLY STOPPING OUR POPULATION GROWTH?

I once had a deeper look into the idea of creating an inland sea in australia by allowing the sea in. It might work and transform australia's precipitation and all that comes with that. But then it became clear that we would be loosing some of our wildest most remote places. They are special, and there are already plenty of people and cities around.

Yet its also true that more minds gets more done; more science, more technology, more space exploration etc, more writers, etc etc.

Originally Posted by rammypluge

I once had a deeper look into the idea of creating an inland sea in australia by allowing the sea in. It might work and transform australia's precipitation and all that comes with that. But then it became clear that we would be loosing some of our wildest most remote places. They are special, and there are already plenty of people and cities around.

Yet its also true that more minds gets more done; more science, more technology, more space exploration etc, more writers, etc etc.

Give it a decade or two, and that will probably happen naturally.

Originally Posted by bob10

Give it a decade or two, and that will probably happen naturally.

Rainfall or sea level rise? The first is unlikely to beat evaporation and there's a sill of around 100 metres altitude north of Yorkey's Crossing that has to be breached for the latter.

Save paradise, put up a parking lot.

Originally Posted by bee utey

Rainfall or sea level rise? The first is unlikely to beat evaporation and there's a sill of around 100 metres altitude north of Yorkey's Crossing that has to be breached for the latter.

Sounds like we would need a badass tsunami then.

By Michael McClennen, Research Informaticist, Department of Geoscience, UW-Madison, as posted on Quora website 13 May 2018;

The strongest argument against veganism is that it is not a natural diet for humans. We, along with our fellow apes, evolved to be omnivores. Chimpanzees eat meat whenever they can get it, and the gorillas and orangutans consume substantial quantities of insects and occasional bird eggs.

It is difficult for any human to maintain optimal heath without some animal food in our diet, and it is simply impossible for many people. To the few people who are able to do so, I say “good for you, but please don’t assume that what is possible for you is also possible for everybody else.”

In addition, eating a vegan diet does not mean that you are not harming any animals. A friend of mine who grew up on a farm told me that every time the combine harvesters cross a field they leave a trail of mice, rabbits, birds, and other small animals that have been literally chopped to bits by the harvester blades.

Crop farming also involves the deaths of many animals from poison, as well as causing the deaths of others by displacing the plants they would otherwise have eaten. It is utterly impossible to grow crops on a scale large enough to feed the human race without causing enormous disruption to the ecosystem and without directly causing animal deaths. This is a sad fact, but it is true.

Anybody who believes they are being morally superior by eating a vegan diet is simply fooling themselves.

Just Sayin'

Don this is a good web site for summaries to peer reviewed studies not paid for by big Dairy and Big meat. The studies are convincing that vege is the way to go.

NutritionFacts.org | The Latest in Nutrition Related Research

Cheers

In terms of veganism, my thinking is that there is no argument, we have evolved as omnivores, and therefore, very strong, very proven science would need to come forth in order to justify discarding a precautionary principle in favour of at least some consumption of animal products.

From the get go we are carnivores as such, feeding off special blood(?) in our mother's womb, and are omnivores in the first few weeks or months of feeding off human milk. No such thing as a vegan from conception.