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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    What about down thru the Gulf via the channel country? Pretty well flat most of the way.
    Bit of a ridge along the Barkly Highway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post

    Of course, the Barkly tableland, rises to 300 metres at the NT / Qld border. However have a look east of Cloncurry, down to Boulia. Love to get a topographical map of the area.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Of course, the Barkly tableland, rises to 300 metres at the NT / Qld border. However have a look east of Cloncurry, down to Boulia. Love to get a topographical map of the area.
    Lowest point on the Flinders Highway would be around 120m ASL at the Gilliat River - which feeds north into the Flinders / Cloncurry systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Maps of Australia's ancient inland sea.


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    So after displacing all the people that have been encouraged to leave the seaside fringe , businesses that have become inundated, what becomes of the native flora and fauna that has evolved to the present conditions ?
    Would this sea be fresh , brackish or salt water ?
    I think it would be easier and cheaper to rethink “big population “.

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    quote..I think it would be easier and cheaper to rethink “big population “.

    .......and therein lies a simple statement that affects so much of what we do.

    Lets not do the hard yards lets take the easy and cheap way out to supposedly solve our world problems.

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    We're already one degree hotter and rapidly heading for 2 degrees, possibly in my remaining lifetime. That means the land is already getting hotter and drier and the desert is spreading. Droughts are no longer unusual, they are the new normal. People are already moving from the inland to the coastal fringe. Decentralisation is a myth. The opposite is happening.
    Meanwhile the ocean is already warming and rising as the ice melts. The coral reefs are dying. As the water comes up the population will be forced back onto higher land. More of our continent will be submerged and there will be less dry land.
    We still export most of the food we produce, but we also import a lot of food. If our food imports were threatened by war or because source societies have collapsed or crops have failed, then we would be in serious trouble.
    Climate change, crop failure and wars have already caused about 60 million people to leave their homes and that is becoming worse every day, which will continue. Books are already being written predicting worse wars over fresh water and food. It's already happening.

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    I still believe war will be our demise as greed for land and wealth push us to one last massive s##t fight the idea of mutual destruction with nuclear weapon's won't stop the button being pushed we'll turn our great planet into an uninhabitable rock any one or thing left will shortly cercome to radiation fall out and die.

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    My impression is that most of the ancient advanced civilisations that died, did so due to growing too much and incurring environmental catastrophes, such as soil salinity or draining the water table.

    We are too big now for those issues to wipe out civilisation, it would now need to be a bigger environmental factor.

    Supposedly australia has a massive surplus of irrigation potential in that big dam (Ord river?) in the NT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rammypluge View Post
    Supposedly australia has a massive surplus of irrigation potential in that big dam (Ord river?) in the NT.
    Lake Argyle.
    The Ord River Project.
    Cotton was a failure but fruit and veg is really taking off.
    Much of it's produce is exported to South East Asia.

    Google it. It's damned interesting. One of the companies I used to work for did some projects up there.

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    I like that picture.Not sure if it's accurate, but its interesting.

    I still think we could support a higher population on less usable land, but we'd have to get a lot smarter about landuse and put community survival ahead of individual selfishness, which probably won't happen, human nature being what it is.
    If we all became vegans, grew all our vegan food in factories and put public transport and renewable energy first, it could happen, but it would certainly be a different lifestyle. Of course, if things get really bad, we might not have any other choice.

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