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    Pygmies..............cannibalism works, but hey, there might be better methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    First step, stop all immigration.
    Second step, issue birth licences. If you're not capable of parenting a child, you can't have one.
    Third step, two children per family unit.
    Admission... haven't read the entire thread. Entirely possible someone has already taken a far better swing at this ball:
    - nearly every population control plan I have ever heard focusses on controlling the numbers of new starters (birth control or immigration) down the road we call "life".
    - sure there are variations on the 3 steps outlined above but the same focus. New starters.
    - all will result in ageing population and economy stagnation (vis. Japan)

    Elephant in the room: Is anyone prepared to talk about culling old codgers. (I am one!)
    - In larger business organisations there are succession plans etc.
    - Bring in fresh new young talent at the bottom, mentor them, given them a flightpath/career path, promote from within, eventually those at the top retire and make room for the upwardly mobile.

    Some movies address this... Logan's Run for example: turn 30, exit stage right.
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    Elephant in the room: Is anyone prepared to talk about culling old codgers. (I am one!)
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    A theory i had a long time ago was to have free medical for everyone.
    Forced retirement at 50 for everyone.
    Termination at 60 for everyone.

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    Cull old codgers? Naah, just bring in proper voluntary euthanasia laws. When you are no longer able to be a contributor to society it should be an easy choice to end your own life. The aged care homes racketeers will be up in arms of course.

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    Hi,
    Having witnessed the end of life experiences of half a dozen or so friends, relatives and family, in aged care homes, it is not a move I am looking forward to.
    Cheers

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    I agree. I am mid 70,s. Still getting about and fixing my own cars etc, but no way I am going into a home.
    Self funded retiree so not much of a drain on society.
    I hope when the time comes I am able to bump myself off. Cant do it legally so it will be the messy way. Swallow a barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tact View Post
    Admission... haven't read the entire thread. Entirely possible someone has already taken a far better swing at this ball:
    - nearly every population control plan I have ever heard focusses on controlling the numbers of new starters (birth control or immigration) down the road we call "life".
    - sure there are variations on the 3 steps outlined above but the same focus. New starters.
    - all will result in ageing population and economy stagnation (vis. Japan)

    Elephant in the room: Is anyone prepared to talk about culling old codgers. (I am one!)
    - In larger business organisations there are succession plans etc.
    - Bring in fresh new young talent at the bottom, mentor them, given them a flightpath/career path, promote from within, eventually those at the top retire and make room for the upwardly mobile.

    Some movies address this... Logan's Run for example: turn 30, exit stage right.
    We will eventually reach the same point as Japan.
    YouTube

    I get it. You are looking at this from an economic perspective. Yep, cull anyone who are a burden on the economy. Pensioners, that's a given. But we should also dispose of anyone else who is a drain on the economy. Anyone who is on NDIS, Newstart, family support, etc., just to be fair.

    The thing is, I don't think it's the economy we should be worried about.
    Have a read of the AAA’s inaugural Road Congestion in Australia report. There is also a thread on here about rising house prices. They're only rising in the suburban areas of major cities. Out in regional areas, they're falling. Everyone wants to live close to the city. And we're running out of land around the city to build on. Ther'e lots of new high rises around the city (with combustible cladding) to live in. Oh, forget about parking that big 4WD.
    A mate lives in Hong Kong. He tells me, if all the people were to walk out of their high rises, there won't be enough land on the island for the people to stand shoulder to shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    We will eventually reach the same point as Japan.
    YouTube

    I get it. You are looking at this from an economic perspective. Yep, cull anyone who are a burden on the economy. Pensioners, that's a given. But we should also dispose of anyone else who is a drain on the economy. Anyone who is on NDIS, Newstart, family support, etc., just to be fair.

    The thing is, I don't think it's the economy we should be worried about.
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    No, am not coming from an economics perspective, though of course that does come along for the ride. My thinking is purely in relation to the number of beings that the closed system that we live on, the earth, can sustain.

    My point was that so many schemes to address this focus only on limiting new entrants to life's journey (i.e. births overall, or population movements to a life in a specific country). A fully rounded picture would also deal with culling the old codgers constantly, trimming the tree so to speak, to make room for continuous well planned new growth.

    To keep the population (of the globe, or of a specific country) at a relatively constant number that is sustainable, could be managed by simply controlling the birth rate etc.... But why not have a more proactive system in play, active culling at a certain age? This allows for better planning around the introduction of new lives to the fixed size pool. Mitigates the risks of increasing lifespans. Ensures constant fresh blood.

    The actual number of codgers to be culled may need to be adjusted seasonally - To account for surprise departures through natural disasters, birth defects, suicides, etc. Given the lead time to commissioning new life entrants (9mths), any unexpected life terminations could result in an extension of time for some lucky old codgers. (How to administer that is open for discussion).
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