Thread: Toyota Warranty - Brake use - Land Rover Warranty

Originally Posted by Zeros

The second is no different to LR dropping the ball on the adapter shaft in late model Defenders.

Very few would agree with that comment.

Every single Defender built since ‘07,that is the Puma models,will break down,that is have no forward motion,due to the rediculous engineering of that adapter shaft.Unless of course it is replaced with a modified design,but they fail as well,as many,and some on here have found out.

A completely different situation to vehicle track differences,which are on quite a few vehicles,with the 70 series being the most publicised.

The main advantage of coils is the better ride,and the long travel suspension.Rear leaves also can upset departure angle and get in the way at times.

So given the weak link which is the adaptor shaft failing has anyone determined the best alternative?

I’m keen to know, having suffered one failure already. I’m thinking of re-greasing every 10K Km’s,......thoughts?

Originally Posted by Rolly

So given the weak link which is the adaptor shaft failing has anyone determined the best alternative?

I’m keen to know, having suffered one failure already. I’m thinking of re-greasing every 10K Km’s,......thoughts?

I had mine replaced by a respected indi at just over 80,000km. It was on the verge of failing. My mechanic said if you put a new one in and grease it properly, it shouldn't fail again.

...it would be good to hear from others with higher km

Originally Posted by Zeros

The V8 might be great for towing, but that’s not the suspension.

The payload figures between Tojo 70 and Defender don’t lie. I’ll take coils over leaves any day.
Defender 110 - 1 tonne vs 76 Wagon 780kg
Ddfender 130 - 1600kg vs 70 single cab 1200kg

The 130 may be able to carry 1600kg but would it be able to pull all that load all day every day with ease?
The 70 series V8 can tow a 3t van with a tray full of gear all day every day with complete ease.

Originally Posted by Zeros

I had mine replaced by a respected indi at just over 80,000km. It was on the verge of failing. My mechanic said if you put a new one in and grease it properly, it shouldn't fail again.

...it would be good to hear from others with higher km

I had mine greased when the clutch was replaced and so far it seems fine at 115,000 kms.
Wasn't the problem because some were not greased originally at the factory?

Re. brakes, as in the OP, my Defender had the rear brakes done at 105,00 and I've just had the front brakes done (pads and rotors) at 115,000, so that's a lot better than Pierre's experience with his Tojo.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I had mine greased when the clutch was replaced and so far it seems fine at 115,000 kms.
Wasn't the problem because some were not greased originally at the factory?

Re. brakes, as in the OP, my Defender had the rear brakes done at 105,00 and I've just had the front brakes done (pads and rotors) at 115,000, so that's a lot better than Pierre's experience with his Tojo.

How many kms was your clutch done Mick?

Originally Posted by trout1105

The 130 may be able to carry 1600kg but would it be able to pull all that load all day every day with ease?
The 70 series V8 can tow a 3t van with a tray full of gear all day every day with complete ease.

Yes agreed, if I was wanting to tow and carry serious weight, I'd probably have to buy a Tojo. Defenders are not good tow vehicles, simply because they're under powered for that task. But I don't need to tow very often. I prefer the swag or the tent to a caravan.

But, I like the fact that Defenders are stronger from factory in terms of load carrying, not because I carry very heavy loads, but because of the general strength. Also, for a big trip with lots of water, etc, no real risk of going over GVM. Having driven lots of 70 series Tojos for work over the years, I also prefer the way Defenders handle a load with 4 coil springs.

Less than 10,000km out of a set of pads and rotors is ludicrous, Most definitely not reasonable wear and tear.
I have done well over 10,000km on my DBA rotors and pads and they still look brand new and that is towing a 1.5t boat.
Toyota should have replaced the rear brakes under warranty without a doubt.