ON OUR NEW SUBMARINES-SO IMPORTANT TO GET ON WITH IT.

**RANDLOVER** · 13th November 2018, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by lyonsy

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Btw this is why conventional subs are able to infiltrate carrier task forces and sink flag ships even when the war game is stacked against them with the fleet knowing they are under submarine attack and actively hunting them even before they games officially start to save face and make them selfs (sic) look better...............

I suspect a carrier group travels with at least one of their own sub's under them for protection, in the same way as they have the air cover envelope, a hemisphere of hundreds of miles, then a smaller surface envelope, with frigates, destroyers, etc as a bastion.

**lyonsy** · 14th November 2018, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I suspect a carrier group travels with at least one of their own sub's under them for protection, in the same way as they have the air cover envelope, a hemisphere of hundreds of miles, then a smaller surface envelope, with frigates, destroyers, etc as a bastion.

They do they have around 4 below each fleet but they are nuke so a conventional sub on electric will pick them up before they do and can get in there baffles. Or out of the direct passive sonar. Then let the fleet run over them

They also need to be nuke subs so they can keep up with the fleet when its moving

**lyonsy** · 14th November 2018, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

I suspect a carrier group travels with at least one of their own sub's under them for protection, in the same way as they have the air cover envelope, a hemisphere of hundreds of miles, then a smaller surface envelope, with frigates, destroyers, etc as a bastion.

They do they have around 4 below each fleet but they are nuke so a conventional sub on electric will pick them up before they do and can get in there baffles. Or out of the direct passive sonar. Then let the fleet run over them

They also need to be nuke subs so they can keep up with the fleet when its moving

DiscoMick · 22nd November 2018, 07:17 PM

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**bob10** · 22nd November 2018, 09:52 PM

Back in the day, I would have gone to sea for nothing more than I loved it. Probably stupid, but I did 21 years and put my family second, behind the Navy. I still have my family, and recognising the fact , I now spend as much time with them as I can. Probably annoys the hell out of them. Until you have people with that attitude, good luck with crewing the Submarines.

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