Thread: MUNGO MAN...SHOULD WE GIVING THIS MORE PRIORITY?

They have a treaty - we don't. Pretty simple.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

They have a treaty - we don't. Pretty simple.

In practical terms, it doesn't mean a thing, for anyone...and practical REAL differences are what I'm talking, and that treaty means absolutely nothing to those who might think it will make a difference, or an improvement, to their lives, such an improvement only being gained by REAL moves by BOTH sides.....not something written on a piece of paper where everyone goes ra ra ra.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by bln

Good question - put another way do you think that our current western civilisation will last 40,000 years. I doubt it. One of the most amazing things is that the aboriginal culture has lasted so long and is still in existence - the longest exisiting culture ever. We should learn from their example how to manage and live within our environment rather than destroying it. In the last 200 years since Cook we have managed to destroy our ecology, waterways, forests. Our farmlands are degraded, our fish stocks diminishing, the water we need to survive is becoming less available and of poorer quality. We haven’t been able to find that balance for sustainable existence. In fact you would have to say that modern culture hasn’t learnt from the past at all.

I wish I was smart enough to post an answer like that. That's it in a nutshell. Thank you. signed- Wowser.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Problem with that is our mob invaded, there was a 150 year war, our mob did our best to wipe the landowners out, but they survived, they never surrendered and no treaty was ever signed, so it's still invaders Vs landowners. So we're not all Australians. History doesn't lie.
We will never become one mob until this is sorted. Other countries, including NZ, have done it, and so should we.

We will never earn the right to be one Nation under the Southern cross, with equal rights for all, until we have the courage to sort this out. Today I gained faith in our future generations. Putting us to shame.

Originally Posted by bob10

I think you will find " first Nations " is an American term, for native Americans. Given to them by Europeans, with the euro. mindset. I found this site, which gives some insight to the indigenous culture.

Aboriginal Culture

I replied to this before reading the rest of the thread. Sozza

This is likely one of the best conversations on Aulro about this topic - with a few exceptions here and there.

We have still not removed terra nullius, we have not legally acknowledged that there was a group of people here. NZ has, and in their national anthem they recognise their heritage and traditional owners. It's hard for us with so many different languages, but I believe that is the point others are making.

This is vs them must stop, I agree on that. But much like the gay marriage debate you have the majority putting down the minority.

It is quite easy to formally recognise the traditional owners, sorry was a start but let's just take it the next step. It isn't hard, and won't change the world, it won't burn down.

Aboriginal studies in school is horrendous (I graduated high school in 2003) and since primary school history was all about European history for the most part, or ancient history (which they defined as Egypt FFS).

We can do so much to learn and teach people about the culture of Australia, as it has been for the last 40,000 years instead of how it has been since Cook landed.

It won't change the older people's minds, but I don't really care about them. They can get on board or not, they will die out soon enough. It's about ensuring the next generation are more respectful than mine, as mine is more respectful than the one before.

Life is about ensuring the next generation has it as good or better than you, not preserving you way of life at the cost of theirs. That statement covers alot of points(climate change and the like), but it isn't hard to want to teach the next generation to have a little respect for the traditional owners, to keep it on point.

The problem is we can't come together while we have an our mob their mob this is a them and us attitude and it instantly puts us at odds with our fellow Australians a treaty will fix nothing as the real fair dinkum aboriginals don't want that and don't care about that. Now I know a few elders who say that they only want to be treated the same as every one else as one elder said to me some time ago the only difference between me and him is skin colour we still bleed red but we still have similar thoughts and dreams. As a culture we need to stop telling people how they should feel about the past because the real aboriginal race don't care they just want to move on as my elder friend said you were born here you are just as much of this county as I am and he's right as for our current immigrants they only want to live the dream and raise their kids who will in the most part will become good citizens of OUR county.

Originally Posted by JoeFriend

This is likely one of the best conversations on Aulro about this topic - with a few exceptions here and there.

We have still not removed terra nullius, we have not legally acknowledged that there was a group of people here. NZ has, and in their national anthem they recognise their heritage and traditional owners. It's hard for us with so many different languages, but I believe that is the point others are making.

This is vs them must stop, I agree on that. But much like the gay marriage debate you have the majority putting down the minority.

It is quite easy to formally recognise the traditional owners, sorry was a start but let's just take it the next step. It isn't hard, and won't change the world, it won't burn down.

Aboriginal studies in school is horrendous (I graduated high school in 2003) and since primary school history was all about European history for the most part, or ancient history (which they defined as Egypt FFS).

We can do so much to learn and teach people about the culture of Australia, as it has been for the last 40,000 years instead of how it has been since Cook landed.

It won't change the older people's minds, but I don't really care about them. They can get on board or not, they will die out soon enough. It's about ensuring the next generation are more respectful than mine, as mine is more respectful than the one before.

Life is about ensuring the next generation has it as good or better than you, not preserving you way of life at the cost of theirs. That statement covers alot of points(climate change and the like), but it isn't hard to want to teach the next generation to have a little respect for the traditional owners, to keep it on point.

Amen to that. The next generation do not have much to respect about this present one. One shining light is our future generations stood up today.