Thread: MUNGO MAN...SHOULD WE GIVING THIS MORE PRIORITY?

Worth a read. The treaty of Waitangi, the principles.

Principles of the Treaty | Waitangi Tribunal

We begin by not being defeatist. By setting out as we aim to proceed.

Originally Posted by Zeros

We begin by not being defeatist. By setting out as we aim to proceed.

Shades of Winston Churchill, now there was a leader, like him or not.

The options in the treaty of Waitangi.

"The Treaty envisaged a place in New Zealand for two peoples with their own laws and cus*toms, in which the interface was governed by partnership and mutual respect. Inherent in the Treaty relationship was that Māori, whose laws and autonomy were guaranteed and protected, would have options when settlement and the new society developed. They could choose to continue their tikanga and way of life largely as it was, to assimilate to the new society and economy, or to combine elements of both and walk in two worlds. Their choices were to be free and unconstrained."

I think the main difference between Maori and Aboriginal , with the European experience , is that the Aboriginal clans lost their identity. In the most part , clan groups were forced off their land, to be placed in missions, or enclaves, with other groups of different language and skin groups. The clans stopped being independent, Government , probably with a guilty conscience threw money at the problem, and created a welfare state. And Australia blamed the Aborigines ! They lost their identity. The young grew up with a definite lack of leadership, unlike Maori . Having said that, during the Maori wars, some tribes linked with the British , and fought against their Kin. We were lucky that Australia is such a large place, and tribal groups had not evolved to band together, in times of War.

The big difference between Maori and Aboriginal people is that Aboriginal people are indigenous to this continent, whereas the Maori, from Polynesia, settled New Zealand.

If anything, Aboriginal people have even more right to a Treaty.

Aboriginal nations all over this continent have ot lost their culture or identity. But Australia’s continuing colonial attitude is still causing that loss every day. A Treaty has never been more overdue. The Treaty of Waitangi is a good place to start.

However, whenever a process gets underway towards a Treaty, the government quashes it.
- EG: Why the government was wrong to reject an Indigenous 'Voice to Parliament'

Who were the first humans to reach New Zealand? Certainly they arrived thousands of years after Australia's first people.

Who were the first humans to reach New Zealand? | Stuff.co.nz

[QUOTE=Zeros;2861677]The big difference between Maori and Aboriginal people is that Aboriginal people are indigenous to this continent, whereas the Maori, from Polynesia, settled New Zealand.

I really have to correct on that on a point of order, Aboriginal people are not, in fact, indigenous to this Nation. The dictionary describes indigenous as originating in a country. The Aboriginal population migrated from Africa, thru Asia, and over the land bridge when the seas were lower, somewhere around 60,000/70,000 years ago. They did not originate here. However they were here, when Cook arrived.

My 2 bobs worth.
I would like to see in Canberra a museum /information area set up with separate area's to represent and inform modern people all the aboriginal tribes/nations.
Canberra is meant to be the capital of modern australia so it would be nice to go to one place to find out about ancient australia. We get taught more European and usa history in school than anything to do with pre European australian history.