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    Carbon dating and written history are both Western cultural concepts.

    Aboriginal people know they have always been here, but because their knowledge is largely oral history based the Western world view struggles to believe it.

    Every time a ‘new’ scientific date of occupation is measured, western science is surprised that it previously got it wrong! LOL. Aboriginal people are not surprised.

    Personally I think the notion that all humans evolved from one point in Africa is highly unlikely. This scientific premise is largely imagined into being via Christian Adam and Eve thinking. The ‘science’ of evolution has been significantly influenced by religious beliefs to the point it has become the norm that all else is ‘tested’ against.

    I believe humans evolved on numerous parts of the planet simultaneously, just as plants and animals have. As I’m not a scientist I’m able to listen to multiple perspectives.

    The Western cultural ego is highly problematic in this debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    This scientific premise is largely imagined into being via Christian Adam and Eve thinking.
    I think it was 'imagined into being' by mitochondrial studies actually.

    2+2=4 is not a cultural concept, but whatever.
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    Europeans also originated in Africa, but when people came out of Africa Europe was frozen solid so they turned east towards the Middle East, Asia and eventually here. So Aborigines were here before there was much settlement in Europe.

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    We need to get over the idea western Europe was the centre of civilisation. Actually it was in the Middle East and China that complex cities originated. China and the empires centred on what is now Iraq to Egypt were the centre of civilisation. The Roman's thought the Celts were wild savages while the Chinese thought the European explorers were unsophisticated.
    White settlers in Australia did not understand the complex belief systems of the indigenous, who did not build cities, but were better adapted to our landscape. We still don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    We still don't get it.
    we get it. we just dont care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferret View Post
    I think it was 'imagined into being' by mitochondrial studies actually.

    2+2=4 is not a cultural concept, but whatever.
    Apparently mitochondrial DNA knowledge is not as conclusive as first thought...
    Turns Out Mitochondria Don't Work Like We Thought They Did
    Just one example of inconclusive Western science. How many other variables might be discovered?

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    White settlers in Australia did not understand the complex belief systems of the indigenous, who did not build cities, but were better adapted to our landscape. We still don't get it.
    Both the white settlers and the aborigines beliefs were just fantasy and nothing was based on science, They were both simply religions.
    IF the indigenous Australians are so much better adapted to this continent they why do they need all the trappings of modern society now to survive and prosper?

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    We still don't get it."
    What is there to "Get" ?
    Do you think we should all adhere to the "Dreamtime" belief and shed our western way of life and go live in the bush and it will be all "Hunky Dory"
    Of course you don't .
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Both the white settlers and the aborigines beliefs were just fantasy and nothing was based on science, They were both simply religions.
    IF the indigenous Australians are so much better adapted to this continent they why do they need all the trappings of modern society now to survive and prosper?

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    We still don't get it."
    What is there to "Get" ?
    Do you think we should all adhere to the "Dreamtime" belief and shed our western way of life and go live in the bush and it will be all "Hunky Dory"
    Of course you don't .

    That is a fair question. Because, the native people, in the main, have been forced off their ancestral land, onto what may be called in the American way reservations . They no longer have the capability to hunt in the traditional way. They no longer have the country to educate their children in the traditional ways. they have over many years degenerated into welfare dependant communities. They have been forced off their land into this situation because the white man needed their land. So they took it. In the most extreme cases, the white man killed them all. Men, Women, Children. That is the white man's legacy. Your legacy.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    time for them to move on and adapt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    time for them to move on and adapt.
    Adapt to what?
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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