Thread: Bloody hard for youngs to get jobs without being stuffed around.

Sure is - a young friend applied for a job in Home Affairs and got a call (not a job offer) in July that subject to a "good character check" (police/secutity check) he had the job. Three months later still no check done and in the mean time he is working at different short term contract jobs so that he is not locked in when the permanent job offer comes through.

After some chasing up he is advised in early November that all the checks have been done and the formal job offer will be provided within 2 weeks. On this information he knocks back a 6 month contract so is not working. Nothing heard - then last week he gets advised the process had just been changed and there is a new check that has to be done - will not take long - now no one at Home Affairs is taking his calls.

So he suspects that after nearly 5 months the job is not going ahead and he has not taken good work offers because of this. He is now assuming the Public Service is stuffing him around and trying to get new contract work but this close to Christmas there is not much on offer so will be out of work until the contract season starts next year.

This is all because when there are changes at the top - Dutton trying to overthrow Turnbull and failing, resulting in revised responsibilities for Dutton means there is a cascade down through the system resulting in a freeze on recruitment including jobs already approved.

Doesn't help the poor mug at the bottom waiting for a permanent job after a few years on the contract circuit.

Poor guy is just hanging by the phone not knowing if his dream job will come to fruition.

Garry

Hi,
A young friend spent 12 months full time looking for work. He had a diary based system for follow ups from interviews and cold calling CV drop offs.
He had a portfolio of information about himself and his aspirations in presentation folders. It was a full - on one man marketing exercise every day.
He eventually landed a full time job and hasn't looked back.
Cheers

No different than it ever was.

ive only been working for 14 years but times have definitely changed.

It's definitely harder than it used to be. One reason is about 40% of jobs are now casual or not permanent. Automation has also abolished a lot of entry level jobs, so it's harder for school leavers to get their first foot on the ladder.

Its not just the younger persons ...
As a 50 plus recently made redundant fella - its hard to even get a look in !
Im sort of lucky that my contacts ( and previous employer ) still require someone like me .

Now add in i haven't needed to apply for a job for a very long time - over 15 years due to owning my own business and falling into my last role .

Yes , the world has changed !

Something will come up ,but its as stated above - ' Full Time One Man Marketing Exercise ' .

The other challenge is most people are fairly loyal and don't want to take a short term role on the off chance a full time previously applied for position will come up .
Put the shoe on the other foot - companies now days will pull - "its a casual role, management have reduced the hours ...."

Be a little more willing to take a role knowing its not a forever job , also be aware that a govt role my take up to 12 months and beyond to come to fruition - do not be disheartened by the veeeeerry long timeframe .

Keep taking the contracts , its all experience .

Sorry , an additional note
- It is exceptionally rare to get any form of contact back from an application , I have had one 'thank you for your application ' this was from an American Company . All other applications have not progressed - as far as i know .
Many of the job listing sites - indeed , jora , trovit and even seek are phishing info to feed back to yourself ....much more efficient to apply direct to company if possible .
I have been 'retired , on a break or unemployed ' for 6 weeks now - have worked for 3 of those weeks with other parties - applied for maybe 7 jobs , 1 formal rejection .
My wife also worked with me , she applied for a job the week after ( also ) being made redundant and has been working for the last 3 weeks .

Yes, the situation is much more difficult than the official figures indicate. Underemployment is much higher many realise.

Don't count your chicken before they hatch.
AKA- you're not employed until the employment contract is presented, signed and back to the employer's HR team.

Doing anything other than this is just foolish, IMO. Welcome to the real world.