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    The fact that some of these jobs want medical done, I think my son is going to say next time, if you want a medical give me the job 1st. You get a bit sick of medicals are you have done a few. Bunnings medical, Aldi medical , Aus post Medical, Japan job Medical, that's 4 medicals in 6 months
    The overseas position he has applied for in Japan required blood tests and x rays as well as a Federal police report. Then 30 pages of documents in triplicate to the Japanese embassy. This one he had to pay for himself


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    Last medical I recall seeing the bill for was way north of $600. Not something a company will throw out there on 100+ applicants because they just can. Trust me on this.
    The premise of this thread is that he's being 'stuffed around' is incorrect. Maybe a bit of mollycoddling in his defense, but definitely just normal corporate ass-covering to find the right hire.
    On that, the cost of hiring is huge- a $40K job would cost the company an easy $15K to get filled and get someone trained and up to speed. All for naught if the son is somehow compromised and his spine snaps in 2 at the first 5kg parcel lift, causing massive workers comp etc...

    Fortunately if he is getting this far, he is most of the way there IMO. He's also cleared a few culls of resume 'gatekeepers' and been deemed worthy of the investment of a medical. Conversely, he's over the barrel as they won't hire without. He could seek an employment contract with a clause pending satisfactory medical report, but respectfully, for the types of 'unskilled' jobs you've outlined, the bargaining power is not with the employee, as the labour pool is huge.
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    We only send the successful candidate for a medical.........otherwise it’s just a waste of dollars and subjecting people to x-rays

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    I don't think this is any new situation, I think it's been steadily getting worse over the years, I'm glad I don't have to apply for a job now, having been retired for many years.
    In my day, it was so much simpler. Having always been interested in cars, I thought I might be a mechanic, but my Dad said no, you'll either join a Bank or an Insurance Co! In those days there were seven private banks, all advertising employment in the Saturday papers, so my Dad accompanied me to interviews, and I was offered a job by the E.S.& A Bank,....I always thought that it would be my employment for life, and it was, although ES & A of course was taken over by ANZ. And by the way, unfortunately I was never one of those bankers on mega salaries, I was just a middle manager, just a small cog in a very large machine.
    I think I did have a medical, but no contracts in those days, we all joined, we thought for life, transfers from bank to bank were a no no. It was a good career, pretty tough at times, some think Bankers just do a 40 hr week,...NO WAY, 50+ in my case at times, and sometimes a lot more!
    But, for sure, I agree, it's a lot harder to find permanent employment now. I would have hated to have had to sign a "contract" for a time & then hope it would be renewed, but many young workers I've spoken to, think it's "the norm" these days.
    Contrary to improving, I think the situation will become even more difficult.
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    You are not in until you have actually started. Keep every possible position live and progressing until you have passed all hoops and are paid. Had one instance where was rung on day before was to start to say they were going to send another start date. This was with all paper work complete and having a signed off letter from the employer who was a large U.K. Plc. Did this to be again with the next start date as well. Had some enjoyment when rang on day was due to start for the third start date to say sorry had started elsewhere. Was only able to do this as had kept other roles progressing which gave me options when messed around.

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    These jobs except the one in Japan were causal jobs.
    He even was asked if interested in volunteer work to teaching english to migrants on a one on one for a couple of days a week. He agreed as it was paying back to the community
    He was sent to seminars at TAFE, had to do police checks and working with children.
    This was over 6 months ago. he still had not been assigned any student . He wants to work and not sit on his backside. He however is not interested in working for me, understandble a lot of kids cant work with their parents.


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    TAFE has been gutted to the point most staff are now casual.
    It's become very hard for young people to get that first job in many fields now.

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    If he's interested in teaching English overseas then try Korea and Thailand as well as Japan.
    For Thailand, search a website called 'Ajarn' for the jobs area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    If he's interested in teaching English overseas then try Korea and Thailand as well as Japan.
    For Thailand, search a website called 'Ajarn' for the jobs area.
    Hi Mick he has his application in with the Japanese embassy as posted earlier. Via the JET program.
    He has studied japanese since early high school, the graduated from uni has a degree in international language studies -Japanese. He lived and studied in Japan for 12 months, he had temporary Japanese residence . So he is very keen on teaching english in Japan.


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    Sounds like Japan is his way to go. Good for him.

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