Thread: Mundine

Originally Posted by JoeFriend

You continually perpetuate the us and them for the most part. Not trying to take it personal, but from all my dealings with you I generally don't see you trying to see it from someone else's point of view, let alone the group of people that is up for debate.

The us and them is there because it's actually real, but as a white heterosexual male you have probably never been a minority in your life, have never been disadvantaged by something that is out of your control. Until you know what this feels like - being a minority (especially when your people are the traditional owners) then I would probably say get off your high horse with this whole 'us and them mentality needs to stop'.

I agree his thoughts on homosexuality are horrendous though. What about you?

"Them & Us", is something I do NOT like or perpetuate, it is something continually Hammered, by activists, one of which I am not.
I have been a minority, I have been ridiculed, ya don't have to be an Aboriginal to cop that.
From my point of view, as I've said, until we get away from the "them & us" perspective, nothing will ever be resolved.
So, I repeat, I am not "Them & Us", it may be real to you, but it isn't to me, and that is the problem because as long as it is that way in people's mind, there will always be that "anti" feeling which will always be an impediment to any lasting, long term solution.
I am all about "US",....always have been, always will be.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by JoeFriend

You have touched on it before - I don't think this is something the older generation want or care about. Educate the younger generation and agitate the older to get wheels moving, you have said it multiple times recently,and it's up to my generation and the next to make a stand a demand it from those who represent us in parliament.

It will happen, it is inevitable - it is just a matter of when we can get it done. Positive role models that can unite us would just make it easier instead of agitators.

I remain positive, not to change those who come before, but those who come after.

We as a Nation move forward , together, or fall apart, and become the banana republic Keating predicted. I have thought for a while we would have to wait until my generation died out, to move forward. I believe we are at a crossroads, the people have spoken in elections around the Nation, our young have marched for their beliefs, how much more has to happen before Canberra wakes up. Not for me to say, but we live in interesting times. I think/hope we are privileged to live in a time when this great place actually strives to reach its great potential, and does so together, all of us. No more division, no more hate, just working together . We will never be perfect, that would be too much to ask. All we need is leadership, and kindness.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

"Them & Us", is something I do NOT like or perpetuate, it is something continually Hammered, by activists, one of which I am not.
I have been a minority, I have been ridiculed, ya don't have to be an Aboriginal to cop that.
From my point of view, as I've said, until we get away from the "them & us" perspective, nothing will ever be resolved.
So, I repeat, I am not "Them & Us", it may be real to you, but it isn't to me, and that is the problem because as long as it is that way in people's mind, there will always be that "anti" feeling which will always be an impediment to any lasting, long term solution.
I am all about "US",....always have been, always will be.
Pickles.

I would just like to know something specific, the them and us isn't real to you? Is that what you are saying?

Just want to clarify before I respond.

I think the next generation have already made up their minds and are eager for us old farts to get out of the way so the country can go forwards.

and it's over in a flash.....

96 seconds.

Jeff Horn KOs Anthony Mundine in just 96 seconds, as it happened
Jeff Horn vs Anthony Mundine fight at Lang Park, as it happened - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

some video:

Jeff Horn KOs Anthony Mundine: video, updates, result, winner | ‘It was scary’

The tosser got whooped
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