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Will be solar, not generators.
How long do you currently have to wait to refuel - five minutes?
Road houses will make a profit by charging for it, so they will meet demand and install as many charging points as motorists need.
Recharging points will be everywhere. For example, I have read of American churches offering recharging points for their congregations to top up while in church.
It will become as common as Wi-Fi.
Exactly, how many cars go through a freeway servo each hour and how much time do they spend at the pump? Maybe 1 or 2 mins? Ok 5 for diesel and LPG I'll give you.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipA
How many cars per hour will a servo be able to fuel up if they were all EV? How many charging stations will they be able to handle blah blah blah you catch my drift
Not being a Debbie downer on EV but these are the things we need to resolve first, you could be waiting hours to get a charging station possibly days if everyone had an EV
I think it's interesting that Maersk (worlds biggest container shipping co) aims to be carbon neutral by 2030 and cut emissions to zero by 2050. Given the logistics in shipping (weeks at sea etc);
‘Maersk is not pushing one technology — ideas such as biofuels, hydrogen, electricity or even wind or solar power have been mooted — but is stressing the urgency as most vessels have a life of 20-25 years, meaning that viable solutions need to be found soon. “To reach the target by 2050, in the next 10 years we need some big breakthroughs,” Mr Toft said. One challenge will be that container ships often need to travel several thousand kilometres at a stretch, appearing to rule out solutions open to other types of transport such as electric cars and lorries.’
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Maersk: Carbon emissions from shipping must be cut to zero by 2050 - CNN
When industries such as massive scale shippers commit to other energy sources the innovation and impact on other, less intense but endurance energy requiring users will surely benefit. As noted in the article above, some ships are nearing the end of their economic life so solutions which are to be integrated into new ships need to be just around the corner.
And in your mythical smoke filled world no roadhouse operator will have heard of solar panels, batteries or the internet. (Hint: your future traveler can check their destination online for capacity at the time they expect to get there. Satellite internet goes everywhere.)Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipA
Very good point Philip. ...It will make the race to the camp site / booking system / grey nomad walking stick fights over power outlets FRENZY even more exciting than it is now!Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipA
National Park bookings will be even more of a nightmare. And there will be super hot competition for the fake fire points too! Not to mention the Augmented Reality Koala viewings.
Supercharging is provided by Tesla for Tesla's vehicles. A private vendor would not set up a Supercharger but rather a Destination Charger, with less effect, so it takes somewhat longer to charge. Which is quite alright as you don't want to gulp down your meal and run off as quickly as possible I suppose. A common 3-phase line with 16-32A will do for this. Coupled with solar panels and a storage battery it might even work in rural Oz.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipA
For getting a real world impression how it works in practice, just go to Norway and see for yourself.
Depends on battery size, state of charge and capacity of the outlet. Battery sizes of current Tesla Model S and X are 75kWh and 100kWh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeros
Anything is doable,but many won't want to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
What about a change over type system?
Just change over the battery at the garage,away you go.
But i suppose every manufacturer will have a different type of battery,and then there will be the new model that is better,and on it goes.
If a swap and go type of system could be organised,it is probably the way to go,with also the ability to charge them in other places and at home if needed.
Why's that? Only a change of attitude is needed. Much easier than you think. I adapted quickly to it. As I said earlier, look at Norway where it works in everyday life. Swap-over battery stations are probably not a viable solution. Tesla had those in California, but no one was using them (a Tesla battery pack can be swapped in less than 5 min).Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry
Nup ... one of the current advances in batteries is quick recharge - as in, 5 minutes to 80%. There's two ways to this - better battery technology and simply faster charging of current batteries:Quote:
Originally Posted by LRJim
Quicker-to-recharge-batteries
Toshiba's new fast-charging battery could triple the range of electric vehicles
Electric-car batteries that charge in five minutes have lured an unlikely investor: Big Oil — Quartz
Faster charging
World's fastest charger gives electric cars full power in minutes | Daily Mail Online
The other thing to consider is that unlike ICE cars, with an EV you don't have to go to a servo to recharge - in most cases you can do it at home. So the servo would be for people who don't have access to a charger - street parking only, for example.
You have answered your own question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojo
But looks like they weren't popular in California,there could be many reasons why they were not popular there.
Its all about time,people don't have hours to hang around waiting for batteries to charge.A few may,but many won't want the inconvenience.
In many cases,time is money,and that won't change,particularly in business.
I don't think Norway is comparable with Australia.We have huge distances that need to be covered,and a public transport system that isn't the greatest around.
Edit----- Just saw Arapiles post,super fast charging is the go,as long as it works.