Thread: Do city people care about the conditions in the bush?

Originally Posted by goingbush

Ahem, the above comments make it clear that city people don't give a stuff about the country, clearly they prefer imported produce and is why Australia is going down the **** hole .

It's not "Them or Us" it's just us. I blame supermarket chains for cutting the price farmers get for produce. Try buying Australian fruit, I won't buy fruit unless it's Australian. The rest of their shelves are the same, anything they can get cheaper so they can mark it up. Farmers get ripped off, they get only a tiny percentage of the final price of produce.

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

Primary producers and self-employed don't pay income tax, or very little using the rorts and lurks available to them under the Income Tax

Like running the diesel Merc or Landcruiser on tax exempt farm diesel or maybe claiming every vehicle you own as a tax deduction on lease. A bloke that wasn't a primary producer I know used to use $20,000 a month of diesel on power generation and had to pay full price, couldn't get it tax exempt. Farmers get fuel cheaper because it's not used on road (Supposedly).
If your a wage earner try getting a tax deduction for fuel used going to work, it's a legitimate expense, without a car you couldn't work but workers just have to suck it up and pay full price.
Most farms and rural businesses run at a tax loss, all workers pay tax, can't get out of it.

The firework not paid by Taxpayer
It's paid by "city people" (councils

case closed then

Originally Posted by martnH

The firework not paid by Taxpayer
It's paid by "city people" (councils

I think the nsw govt has stepped in and made some vantage points a ticketed area , though the event has been funded by the city.

Originally Posted by Fourgearsticks

Like running the diesel Merc or Landcruiser on tax exempt farm diesel or maybe claiming every vehicle you own as a tax deduction on lease. A bloke that wasn't a primary producer I know used to use $20,000 a month of diesel on power generation and had to pay full price, couldn't get it tax exempt. Farmers get fuel cheaper because it's not used on road (Supposedly).
If your a wage earner try getting a tax deduction for fuel used going to work, it's a legitimate expense, without a car you couldn't work but workers just have to suck it up and pay full price.
Most farms and rural businesses run at a tax loss, all workers pay tax, can't get out of it.

There are actually a wide range of fuel excise/GST exemptions for a range of businesses, not just agriculture.

Originally Posted by Fourgearsticks

It's not "Them or Us" it's just us. I blame supermarket chains for cutting the price farmers get for produce. Try buying Australian fruit, I won't buy fruit unless it's Australian. The rest of their shelves are the same, anything they can get cheaper so they can mark it up. Farmers get ripped off, they get only a tiny percentage of the final price of produce.

and it's been like this for a very long time.

Through the nineties I looked after a number of orchards in the Bilpin region.
By around this part of the stone fruit season the trays were costing more than what the fruit was selling for at market.
Coles, Woolies and back then, Franklins dictated the price as they controlled over 60% of the Sydney/NSW market.
The old road side stall made much more money thna the tonnes that were sent to Flemington.

Originally Posted by trog

I think the nsw govt has stepped in and made some vantage points a ticketed area , though the event has been funded by the city.

A Politicians ONLY area perchance?