Thread: Climate Change and our Land of Fire, Flood and Drought.

Originally Posted by Saitch

Nothing too political for me in your reply, Slunnie.

When you say "

they have been advised of what the implications are' what, exactly, are these implications and why implications and not facts?

The only fact that I can glean from all this is that the climate is changing faster than in the past, which, apparently, is not too flash for us humans.
So, armed with that information, what do we do? How do we prepare or nullify present practices when there are a lot of unknowns?

How hot is it going to get? How high will the seas rise? How much will the Poles melt? How much will Australia's success in lowering our Carbon output affect the globe? How will we achieve the former? What horse will win the 2020 Melbourne Cup?

That's easy. The answers are already known.
Australia is more vulnerable than most countries to climate change, and our average temperature has already risen 1.5 degrees in a century, compared with 1 degree for the planet, which is why all our weather events are becoming more extreme.
We have to cut our emissions significantly more than is presently proposed, to help slow the warming of the atmosphere.
That means, among other things:
Adopting the latest international fuel quality standards
A carbon tax or something similar to favour clean energy production
Setting a target of zero net emissions by 2050, as the UK and others have already done
Big support for household renewable energy production
and various other measures.
The answers are well known. The problem is overcoming complacency and 'she'll be right' thinking. It won't be right unless we make it right, as the bushfire emergency demonstrates.

Originally Posted by Johndoe

Thats a nice PDF.

I dont that particular pdf was available to Aboriginals before white man invaded though.
Lets be honest here.

We (white fellas) have totally changed the layout of the land through our own management.
Black Fellas just let it burn and moved onto another piece of land which allowed it to regrow properly.
Not something they knowingly did, rather a side effect of doing NOTHING..

A little bit more on the subject. You know, the more the colonialists and the natives get to know each other, the less suspicion and hate will grow. It's one small step at a time.

Cool burns: Key to Aboriginal fire management - Creative Spirits

In case any one missed the video's, here is indigenous fire management, from the experts

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

That's easy. The answers are already known.
Australia is more vulnerable than most countries to climate change, and our average temperature has already risen 1.5 degrees in a century, compared with 1 degree for the planet, which is why all our weather events are becoming more extreme.
We have to cut our emissions significantly more than is presently proposed, to help slow the warming of the atmosphere.
That means, among other things:
Adopting the latest international fuel quality standards
A carbon tax or something similar to favour clean energy production
Setting a target of zero net emissions by 2050, as the UK and others have already done
Big support for household renewable energy production
and various other measures.
The answers are well known. The problem is overcoming complacency and 'she'll be right' thinking. It won't be right unless we make it right, as the bushfire emergency demonstrates.

Mike, this is common knowledge! Where are the facts that prove that a 1.5° increase in temperature is going to be detrimental to the human race?
How do you set a zero target for emissions and a tax to favour renewable energy production when there isn't a reliable, environmentally friendly, power alternative to implement these?

Also, there have been several cases of anthropogenic effect on the land.

I agree with a lot of the CC debate but still think that the big players, on both sides of the table, have their eyes firmly fixed on the cash register.

More on traditional land burning.

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Originally Posted by bob10

A little bit more on the subject. You know, the more the colonialists and the natives get to know each other, the less suspicion and hate will grow. It's one small step at a time.

lol thankyou.

I got a giggle out of that one.

Originally Posted by bob10

More on traditional land burning.

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You forget the Aboriginal Volunteer Service.
Or as it was known back then Goonie Goo Goo.
Meaning guy that points at fire, then points at wind and suggests best running direction.

Originally Posted by Johndoe

You forget the Aboriginal Volunteer Service.
Or as it was known back then Goonie Goo Goo.
Meaning guy that points at fire, then points at wind and suggests best running direction.

And you have forgotten your manners. Comes from being on your own too long.