Am sure they will be working for a lot less! Second time it has happened to me in three years. Such is the life of a contractor....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigbjorn
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Am sure they will be working for a lot less! Second time it has happened to me in three years. Such is the life of a contractor....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigbjorn
Unless the position is redundant it is illegal under IR law to say a position is redundant then fill it again.
Regards Philip A
Lionel,
All the best, hope it works out OK.
At least you are getting some warning although it must raise the stress levels while you re-apply.
5 years ago I was about to take over as MD of the Australian operation of an Italian company. Went to the MD's meeting in Italy , met the MD's from around the World.......
4 weeks later the current MD retrenched my position (so he could stay for another 2 years). Small operation here (less than 14 employees) so no redundancy package just got my outstanding holiday pay, 4 weeks notice pay and sent on my way ! I was running my own car on an allowance system and payments on the car were just over $1K per month.
58 and looking for another position, to say I was worried is an understatement especially as I have young kids still at home.
Called a competitor to the company that retrenched me as I left the building and booked an interview with them the next working day. Second interview 4 days later and got the job back in sales. A drop in salary but a job, and I actually ended up getting paid by both companies for a couple of weeks.
Several things that make me smile since I left.
1. I left with the company mobile & laptop. Managed to download all my emails, customer details etc. before they sent someone round to collect the phone & laptop. A big thank you to someone on the forum who helped me delete absolutely everything on my laptop before it was returned.
2. On a daily basis I have the opportunity to win business from my old employer. I know their pricing, I know their products better than most of their current staff and I know their customer base.
3. About 2 years ago I discovered that their accountant had skimmed off just over $1.5M from them over a 5 year period. So both the MD that retrenched me and the new MD were unaware of the theft going on 'under their noses'.
It could have happened 'on my watch'!
Colin
Yup, understand that. I was told the position was being ‘disestablished’ whatever that means. Last time it happened to me 3 years ago I was employed by the largest employer in the country. They just changed the position description and title though the role was in essence identical. I left on the Friday and the ‘replacement’ flew in over the weekend to start on Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipA
Give the position a new title and job description....Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilipA
Know of one place in U.K. where a new boss arrived. Decided that the business required a restructure so it could achieve its aims as he saw it. All positions (about 20) were cancelled and new job descriptions that were slightly different but not much issued. About half the people were retained. What was clear though was that anyone who had not fully agreed with him in the first couple of weeks no longer worked there. All done a cording to the law with specialists employed to complete the restructure and ensure the outcome was as he wanted. And for those who might be wondering no it does not exist anymore. The boss has another more senior role in the same sector. By reputation still does not tolerate what he sees as dissent from those lower than himself
Restructures are a beast of their own that do not conform to any real world hard facts.
Business with operations across Australia. Brought in the experts to identify how to reduce costs and make more competitive. Profits were down and showing continual decline which management had been unable to stop. Result was that Melbourne and Sydney operations be reduced to sales satellites and either Adelaide or Brisbane be made corporate centre. This was based on costs as these places are very expensive to operate in. Actual result was Melbourne became corporate centre and other sites reduced. Rational of owner was that he lived in Melbourne.
Or U.K. business that wanted to restructure regional operations. Staff were told that management had employed out side experts to assist with driving business forward. To engage with them as all ideas were important and they wanted the knowledge from within the business to ensure the best outcome was produced which required everyone’s input. What they were not told was that management had already signed off on the restructure and the consultants were only their to window dress the plan when the independent review was published
How many times have we seen restructures in which the people who actually make the products and generate the sales are trimmed, while those above them who merely manage are left untouched, resulting in a decline in production and sales, and the business spirals downwards, while others expand to take up the lost opportunities.
I worked for a vehicle assembler that pruned the monthly paid salaried staff first. Management were not sufficiently courageous to upset the very militant unionised production workforce.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
I was working in Singapore during the GFC and one ‘enterprising’ tech company had a planned fire evacuation. Once assembled outside the staff were advised that some of their access cards would no longer work and if this was the case you had been made redundant and personal belongings would be couriered to their home address. Quite legal there at the time. People care laws hardly existed in Asia and completely ignored by western multinationals when convenient to do so despite moral obligations under their home H/O charters and mission statements.
Even so did not go down well, was mentioned in parliament and made the BBC World news.