Thread: Notre Dame cathedral on fire,

The story of the other Notre Dame, at Rheims.

The Shelling and Rebuilding of Notre-Dame de Reims
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Originally Posted by ozscott

They could take rebuilding tips from the Germans. Might have taken them a while but what they did to rebuild Dresden including the cathedral is nothing short of amazing. Cheers

Not to mention the Poles and Warsaw.

A French gaming company, Ubisoft, has a; donated at last count €500,000, but b; also pledged access to a digital scan they took of the icon, which took over more than two years for their game Assassins' Creed. Seems that this is by far the most detailed representation of the Cathedral that could possibly exist.

I saw this on another utube vid, but this is the best I can find on short notice:

https://mashable.com/article/notre-dame-assassins-creed-unity/?europe=true

Originally Posted by johntins

I saw this on another utube vid, but this is the best I can find on short notice:

https://mashable.com/article/notre-dame-assassins-creed-unity/?europe=true

I'll try that again:

'Assassin's Creed' developer is willing to help restore Notre-Dame

Originally Posted by johntins

Not to mention the Poles and Warsaw.

Or the English and Coventry.

Originally Posted by bob10

Or the English and Coventry.

Indeed. But Coventry wasn't systematically torn down in the way the Nazis treated Warsaw as they left.

I guess that it's fair to say that it was horror, start to finish.

Dresdonites still hold the bombings close. They don't seem interested in the following words "Garrison town"; "Coventry". Understandable from what I can tell.

Cheers

Originally Posted by ozscott

Dresdonites still hold the bombings close. They don't seem interested in the following words "Garrison town"; "Coventry". Understandable from what I can tell.

Cheers

Indeed. Poles feel the same way about Warsaw, although it was not bombs that destroyed that city. The Nazis took it apart stone by stone as they retreated. Ask a Pole old enough to have had a father or uncle who lived at the time what they think. They'll tell you, better than the books written by intellectuals.

Then there's London. Ask Londonites what happened. Londonites possibly suffered more, given the size of the city, and the lack of warnings offered by the Luftwaffe. The Luftwaffe offered NONE. They just bombed. On the other hand, the British carpetbombed cities, especially Dresden, for weeks, with leaflets warning of what was to come. They were given ample opportunity to leave before the bombing. They chose not to.

Unsure if you are aware, but Hitler refused to let the Luftwaffe bomb Oxford or Cambridge. Seems he wanted them for himself. What he planned to do with them is anyone's guess. In the case of Cambridge perhaps he got what he wanted, given the many defections from that place to the USSR. What fun.

There is no right and wrong here. It is impossible to second guess with hindsight. Unless the left want to rewrite the history of WWII then there is no argument. The Germans, led by Hitler, were an horrific blight on our history. The gas camps are inexcusable by any metric. Decent people fought for belief. I reckon that WWII was the last time that happened.

I hope that my nephew and my son will forgive me for that.