What you need to know about the coming flu season

**JDNSW** · 21st May 2019, 08:40 PM

There is a tendency to consider measles as a minor childhood disease. This used to have some justification in Western Europe when there was a high child mortality rate, and measles had a high survival rate compared to other childhood diseases such as diphtheria and whooping cough, and the number of deaths from measles was small compared to deaths from gastroenteritis (which remained a major killer of infants into the 1950s). But as other diseases were almost eliminated (mainly by vaccination), and we learnt how to effectively and cheaply treat gastroenteritis, measles became much more important, especially because it is so infectious.

And measles has always showed greater virulence in non-western populations; for example, I remember reading somewhere that it was a major factor in the massive reduction in the population of the Pacific islands after European contact, and this probably also was the case in the Americas and Australia, although in these last two smallpox may have been more significant.

**NavyDiver** · 24th May 2019, 05:32 PM

If you want a flu vaxs be quick. I cannot buy any more Private and Government stocks are about to get rationed

At a guess we have a few weeks supplies left. My Doctors have under a weeks worth left.

**superquag** · 24th May 2019, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by speleomike

Hi

Great link. I followed through to see who the Board of Directors are and what they do;
"We create awareness and provide evidence-based information.
We provide educational resources. All our materials are provided free of intellectual property.
We hold scientific meetings and educational forums on Influenza and adult vaccination."

Mike

Yes, "interesting" link. At first reading they sound so.... harmless and Well Intentioned, you know, lots of Warm Fuzzy and Seeking YOUR Greater Good...
- Till you click on the non-displaying logos for the sponsors... and notice that 5 of them are all the usual suspects, GSK, MSD, pfizer, Roche and one I hadn't heard of, 'Seqirus' (CSL owned)

Gosh, who'd a thunk ?

**superquag** · 24th May 2019, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

If you want a flu vaxs be quick. I cannot buy any more Private and Government stocks are about to get rationed

At a guess we have a few weeks supplies left. My Doctors have under a weeks worth left.

Until then, keep away from disease-ridden snotty noses (usually kids on my school buses...)

Or, until the vaccine is back in stock... you can make sure your immune system is working at it's best, which means ensuring sufficient/appropriate nutrients in your diet.... but as our soils are so depleted, taking them via pills is not to be sneezed at...
Sorry, couldn't resist that !

Seriously, vitamin C is the first to spring to mind, as the modern diet barely supplies enough. Zinc is another that is reputed as beneficial.

Zoos will balance the greenery feeds of great apes to supply around 5,000mg per day.
Vets say Guinea Pigs need about 30mg per day (for a 1kg furrball),

- so a 100kg human is going to need substantially more than the (USA) RDA 90mg per day. More if a smoker, or highly stressed...

https://www.nal.usda.gov/sites/defau...s_elements.pdf
"
But VIC Health informs us that humans only need "...45mg per day, and excess to that is excreted..." That's the same as a morbidly obese, stressed Guinea Pig...

My minimum daily dose is half a dozen 500mg orange flavoured lollies, spread over the day. Over all my school-bus-driving time, No disease-ridden kid has succeeded in infecting me !

Oh, if/when you finally DO get 'vaccinated', keep away from the very young and vulnerable, as YOU may be shedding virus particles and can possibly infect them for a short time afterwards...

Breaking News ! (just heard on the News) - "someone" in Oz is working on a new flu vaccine that is going to give you 'lifetime' protection ! .

**Slunnie** · 24th May 2019, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by superquag

Breaking News ! (just heard on the News) - "someone" in Oz is working on a new flu vaccine that is going to give you 'lifetime' protection ! .

This is really cool. My Haemetolgist was saying they have a new one needle treatment for CLL Leukaemia also. They induce an immune response that remains active for life. Its also a $1m needle.

**JDNSW** · 25th May 2019, 06:29 AM

No flu vaccines used in this contry contain live virus, so there is no possibility of their leading to infection in either the person vaccinated or anyone in contact with them.

Most Australians certainly have a vitamin C deficit - because we do not eat enough fresh fruit. And correcting this diet is easy, and probably cheaper than artificial supplements.

DiscoMick · 25th May 2019, 02:42 PM

I'm off to a four-day Year 8 camp next week, do I'm glad I've had my flu shot for protection from snotty nosed kids.

**NavyDiver** · 25th May 2019, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by superquag

Until then, keep away from disease-ridden snotty noses (usually kids on my school buses...)

Or, until the vaccine is back in stock... you can make sure your immune system is working at it's best, which means ensuring sufficient/appropriate nutrients in your diet.... but as our soils are so depleted, taking them via pills is not to be sneezed at...
Sorry, couldn't resist that !

Seriously, vitamin C is the first to spring to mind, as the modern diet barely supplies enough. Zinc is another that is reputed as beneficial.

Zoos will balance the greenery feeds of great apes to supply around 5,000mg per day.
Vets say Guinea Pigs need about 30mg per day (for a 1kg furrball),

- so a 100kg human is going to need substantially more than the (USA) RDA 90mg per day. More if a smoker, or highly stressed...

https://www.nal.usda.gov/sites/defau...s_elements.pdf
"
But VIC Health informs us that humans only need "...45mg per day, and excess to that is excreted..." That's the same as a morbidly obese, stressed Guinea Pig...

My minimum daily dose is half a dozen 500mg orange flavoured lollies, spread over the day. Over all my school-bus-driving time, No disease-ridden kid has succeeded in infecting me !

Oh, if/when you finally DO get 'vaccinated', keep away from the very young and vulnerable, as YOU may be shedding virus particles and can possibly infect them for a short time afterwards...

Breaking News ! (just heard on the News) - "someone" in Oz is working on a new flu vaccine that is going to give you 'lifetime' protection ! .

There will be no more stock in 2019 saddly

**Roverlord off road spares** · 25th May 2019, 06:59 PM

Mario and I got ours yesterday, it didn't cost us anything, going through our Dr. I couldn't stand him going back in to hospital, with his health problems that he has. And I can not get sick as I am his carer.

**superquag** · 25th May 2019, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by JDNSW

No flu vaccines used in this contry contain live virus, so there is no possibility of their leading to infection in either the person vaccinated or anyone in contact with them.

Most Australians certainly have a vitamin C deficit - because we do not eat enough fresh fruit. And correcting this diet is easy, and probably cheaper than artificial supplements.

My grandfather used to tell of a (West Australian wheatbelt) disease locally known as Barcoo Rot.
-- Slow healing sores, gum bleeding/tooth loss, skin bruising, debilitation and even skin breaks & bleeding... sounds much like good old fashioned Scurvy as enjoyed by HM's sailors or yore.
So, change the name to disguise the disease...

Bottom line, ANY supplementation from a pill, extra capsicum or kiwi-Fruit is better than none.

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