Thread: Man loses 33 demerit points in one go.

The Nanny State reaction to riding a motorbike is BAN MOTORBIKES.

So can anyone see the irony in the fact that your activities in a car are controlled to the merest detail but you are free to do what you want on a bike or scooter or motorbike?

I used to pillion my 10 year old back in the day and I saw a bloke at the beach yesterday with about an 11-12 year old girl on pillion. This is many times more dangerous than being in a car with a seatbelt on, but no action by authorities.
My conclusion then is that it is all politics.
Regards Philip A

Originally Posted by Eevo

i did 500km in the last few days. i didnt wear a seat belt the whole time.

I was involved in a head on collision and there was 7 people on board the Ford Transit at the time, 6 of us were wearing seatbelts and we survived the only person that wasn't wearing a seatbelt perished on the scene.
Not wearing a seatbelt is just plain Stupid.

Back seat passengers need to ease seat belt as well.

A few years ago was an accident near me where car not going more than 30kph hit a small tree. Passenger in back not wearing seat belt hit seat in front breaking seat from mountings and pushing seat and occupant who was wearing seat belt into dash board and windscreen with resulting injuries and stay in hospital for both. If wearing seat belt both would have walked away.

Originally Posted by 3toes

Back seat passengers need to ease seat belt as well.

A few years ago was an accident near me where car not going more than 30kph hit a small tree. Passenger in back not wearing seat belt hit seat in front breaking seat from mountings and pushing seat and occupant who was wearing seat belt into dash board and windscreen with resulting injuries and stay in hospital for both. If wearing seat belt both would have walked away.

The exact same thing happened to me in that head on smash I was involved in.
The rear passenger Not wearing a belt smashed into the front passengers seat that killed him instantly and put me in hospital for 3 weeks and destroyed my left arm forever.

Originally Posted by PhilipA

The Nanny State reaction to riding a motorbike is BAN MOTORBIKES.

So can anyone see the irony in the fact that your activities in a car are controlled to the merest detail but you are free to do what you want on a bike or scooter or motorbike?A

If motor bikes were invented today they would never be available to use as no insurance company would provide any cover.

So you have invented a new mode of transport that you sit on which has none of the safety devises of a car and it goes very fast and want me to provide cover if it goes wrong?

Then again can you imagine attempting to arrange cover for a road system where vehicles would be travelling in opposite directions separated by 5cm of white paint?

Or when the first caveman invented fire to keep warm and cook food that would never have been allowed either as the risks would have been too great

riding a motorbike is a personal risk. freedom of choice.

Yes, as an adult you have Freedom of Choice.
The children in the back of said van are not old enough to make that choice.
Our kids get to live a pretty free & wild life but we still always consider their safety.
That doesn't mean no risk, just controlled & assessed risk.
If they are in the car & we crash we mittigate some risk by forcing them to wear seat belts. They might still be injured or worse but we have tried to reduce the risk of that happening.
Jonesfam

Without diminishing the message that seatbelts save lives that report is the third one that I have seen over the holiday period of people accruing large numbers of demerit points due to unrestrained passengers, I smell a media campaign in the offing. Here's a convenient link to all 3 stories. Three drivers share 85 demerit points

I suspect that these offences often happen over double demerit periods and are only being highlighted to drive a facet of the media campaign.

Demerit suspension periods for NSW are below:

For unrestricted licence holders, the period of suspension depends on the number of points you accumulate:
13 to 15 points: 3 month suspension
16 to 19 points: 4 month suspension
20 or more points: 5 month suspension
For learner, P1 and P2 licence holders, the suspension period is 3 months.

Regards,
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