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Who would have thought of that even being possible?Quote:
Originally Posted by V8Ian
quote...Simultaneously, Britney Spears is set to write her memoirs and is claiming them to be worth $15,000,000.00
well she has several hundred million adoring fans who would purchase her memoirs.
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Originally Posted by NavyDiver
Thanks for that James. :TakeABow: Of course I knew of Harrison (who hasn't in this industry?) but ashamedly I have never looked up his history.
Early OZ has a lot to be very proud of.
The refrigerator shown was a much later design (convenience ?) the earlier ones were ex-USA & most seemed to have the condensing unit with compressor fitted to the outer roof of the cabinet & some had extension legs to support the whole she bang. A different looking machine entirely.
But they worked ok from my experience, but we have still come a very long way from those days.
Australian food history timeline-first domestic refrigerator
We had one of those Kerosine fridges when we lived on Fraser island back in the day.I remember them unloading it out of a Series 2 LR.Only sort of half worked from memory,not real well on 35 to 40 degree days.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4bee
But still better than having to put the butter in the Lake to stop it turning into runny oil.
FWIW,some of those earlier domestics were belt drive,i cant remember the name of the cabinets,or what refrigerant they ran on,pretty sure it was before the good old R12?
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Originally Posted by scarry
Yes, they had their limitations alright.[bighmmm]
From what I can recall the biggest service problem was that the internal two Gases (?) separated & to rectify it one had to turn the Cabinet on its top for an hour or so.
That apparently sorted those out but the Absorption system was always behind the eight ball with cooling.
The other Icy Ball System in that link was another thing altogether. I "had the Privilege" of being shown possibly the last operating one in Adelaide at that time in a Butcher's cool room just off Anzac Highway but this one was different in that an electric motor (a Wagener RI Brush type) drove the balls or one (?) via a flat drive belt to the second one in a Brine Bath on the Cool room Roof.
That one should really have found a home in some engineering Museum somewhere sadly it was probably scrapped when the building was demolished.
Today's"DROP-IN PLUGS" owed their beginnings to some of these systems in that when manufactured the smaller ones servicing could be lifted out of the top of the cabinet that were fitted with Sealing gaskets.
I tell yer, there is nuthin new in the whole wide world just that some "bright" young engineer reckons he has revolutionised refrigeration systems.
Well let me tell yer sonny Jim, there ain't such a thing. ( Attributed to Adam Lindsay Wordsworth):Rolling:
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RE Cold Spot Refrig. Audells (remember that, The Bible?) printed USA 1944 tells me that it's Gas Charge was 2lb of liquid Sulphur Dioxide & most at that time would have been the same.
Many also were fitted with Rotary Vane Compressors, certainly a new thing back then. A spring loaded vane ran on the surface of the shaft & was the difference between the Hi & Lo sides
Looking at Audell's flyleaf I see it cost me 42/- & I recall paying back my old boss each week a couple of bob.
Ah, Happy Days.
EDIT. Paul have a shufti at this link which I found most interesting.
Refrigerator - General Electric (GE), Monitor Top, White, post 1935
I remember seeing one of those ancient old fridges. About 5 foot tall with the bottom 18" having a liftoff panel to hide the motor and belt driven compressor, dirty cream/yellow in colour with compound curves on every corner. Enormous external dimensions but internally, an anti-tardis, the freezer (perpetually frosted up) barely contained the aluminium ice tray. They were also power hungry.Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry
I also heard of someone who inadvertently left a kero fridge running, on one of the bay islands, to return weeks/months later, to find the fishing shack, internally coated with a film of black, kero soot and the fridge bereft of fuel.
Thats a great link,Des.
Cant ever remember seeing a 'Monitor Top'.
When i was an Apprentice,i used to work some nights and weekends for a guy that only repaired domestic refrigerators.
I remember rewiring heaps of them as they originally had that crappy cable with rubber insulation.
Fridgidaire used the rotary vane compressor for years in domestics,i can still remember the unique tick tick noise they made.And they swung on two rubber and spring mounts,which were very effective in keeping the vibration of the compressor from transferring to the cabinet.
The old Absorption,yes,turn upside down over night.If it then didnt go,there were people that used to recharge them,but most ended up at the dump.
There were also huge Absorption chillers,but i cant remember seeing one.
Ours were all Centrifs using good old R11[thumbsupbig]
What a great cleaner that was[bighmmm][biggrin]
You had to keep cleaning the flue, at the rear of the kero fridge, too. I grew up with them until I was in double figures. Ours was a Pope brand, I think and we had a huge Metters, wood stove. We didn't get power until the early to mid 60s. [smilebigeye]
My sister and I didn't know any different, but used to marvel at our grand parent's television.
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Originally Posted by V8Ian
The crowd I did my apprenticeship with designed & manufactured their own open units (Belt Drive) BRS. I did my fair share of cast iron fettling from the raw castings & manufacturing other components in a Lathe or Shaper through to Pressure testing of parts to assembling & building up cabinets into complete units.
The small Macson lathe was used during WW2 to make steel inserts for .303 bullets & would have made thousands.
FRidges were still in short supply post war but I was able to get a S/H re-manufactured unit for my 'rents & they had it for yonks. It was a 5cft job which wasn't too bad a size for them & it was plenty big enough & it had a Galvd Evaporator which could make 2 x trays of Ice cream or Ice blocks. WOW!
The next size up then was a 7cft but i think that was the largest obtainable then. Thin sheet Polystyrene insulation made a big difference to later jobs allowing a larger capacity but that came much later.
I look at our 2 year old Westinghouse to day, glass adjustable shelves, fan forced from the top centre, quiet as a Mouse, separate t/stats for the Freezer section & normal temp, Frost Free & other improvements only to realise just how far we have come to now.
The cabinet skin is used as an Air cooled condenser which is just warm to the touch & it uses a much lower pressure refrigerant ie. R166a I think it is. (?)
I'll leave this one for you.
Dina-Fridge. A modern concept (then)t which coincidentally had it roots close by here in the the Adelaide Hills.
Building is still there but space is rented out to tenants. I delivered & installed a number of these when I worked for Foy & Gibson Dept store. The building has a very unique construction & design.
The standard Airflow condensing unit unit was in the bottom section & the "table top just lifted into place et Voila. The top had preformed air ducts around the edges with small flap doors that opened & shut to get the cold plates & food out.''Have tried over the yeqrs to find info on this unique unit but it would appear the Search entry may be fairly recent. Maybe I was not using Dina Fridge as it's name?
“DINA~FRIDGE” AND THE CRAFERS REFRIGERATION FACTORY – Mount Lofty Districts Historical Society Inc
EDIT #2 When we moved into our new home back in the sixties I constructed a Combination Fridge/ Freezer
loosely based on the Dina Fridge. It was in the form of floor mounted thing similar to a Kitchen Cupboard but with a Freezer Well on the left end. Laminex top. The rest of the gubbin's was a front & top accessible normal Fridge cabinet with a Anodized Ally Plate for an evaporator & mounted to the rear of the interior cabinet with coolant pipes fixed to the face which defrosted each cycle. The Outdoor unit was an old Frigidaire twin cylinder Comp & insulated Pipes & cabling ran under the floor to the inside Cabinet. That worked for us for about 30 years.
Not sure what happened to it in the end.[bawl]
In the last month I've finally replaced the frost free timer in a 90's upside down F&P after months of turning the timer manually, every week or so, to do the defrost cycle.
The doors are distorted due people opening them from the top corners. New seals wouldn't fix this so each door has an over centre latch on it on the top corner. Yeah I know.........
so the fridge is kept in a locked shed.
Best thing is it works like new.
The freezer fan was replaced 2 weeks out of warranty way back when. The fridgie who did it said the original had a design fault. F&P would not come to the party.
cheers, DL