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    I think the northernmost pill-box for defence of the Brisbane line is located on Bribie Island.
    Townsville had gun emplacements On Magnetic Island to command the channel into the Port. They only ever fired once in anger at an American destroyer which did not give the correct response to challenge.

    The bloke across the road from my house In Hayles Avenue on Magnetic built his by dismantling and moving the barracks to our street.
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    The "Brisbane Line" did indeed start at Bribie Is. and went west through Caboolture and on up to Wamuran and on to Kingaroy where a sealed Airfield was built,this being beyond the range of Jananese carrier aircraf
    My mother and siblings evacuated to Chinchilla from Brisbane and my Dad was stationed at Wallangarra on the Qld border where there was a large storage depot. I think it was this fear of Japanese shelling that they reacted to after Sydney and Newcastle. Also there was an American camp in East Brisbane opposite my parents house, and "around the creek" on Norman Creek was another facility where there were anti aircraft guns, the pits still existing when I was a teenager.

    My brother and a mate used to steal stuff from the Px and his mate was shot one night. He later became a police detective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbjorn View Post
    Whoever called the British "Perfidious Albion" got it right. Two faced, double dealing, self interested, liars, cheats, etc. Just look at their history. How they treated friends and allies over the centuries.

    All poms should remember that if not for the actions of Commonwealth troops in two World Wars German would be very widely spoken in Britain.
    Ironically, it was the French.

    Just wondering. Do you hold all of us in this regard, just the pollies/military, or whichever engineering 'genius' at LR promised so much, but failed miserably, with whatever part last failed on your LR?

    Don't worry, your last point is well remembered.
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    All poms should remember that if not for the actions of Commonwealth troops in two World Wars German would be very widely spoken in Britain.
    It should also be remembered that without the "Poms" there would Not have been a Commonwealth in the first place
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    The "Brisbane Line" did indeed start at Bribie Is. and went west through Caboolture and on up to Wamuran and on to Kingaroy...……………...
    I am not from the East Coast(although born in Victoria), but I do know that there was a coastal gun emplacement at Caloundra. Back in another lifetime I had to land on the roof of the thing as part of my helicopter training!

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    I don't have a preference about track vs trail, but if the PNG Government says trail is the name, then it's their country, so that's it, I think.

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    But it will forever be to me, "Track" & I'm sure if I ever decide to walk it, my Travel Agent will know exactly where I mean & they have probably had this discussion in their office as well.

    Personally, the way I feel today with a heavy cold coming on & a runny hooter that day will be light years away.



    My brother and a mate used to steal stuff from the Px and his mate was shot one night. He later became a police detective.

    Sounds like he may have been well qualified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I don't have a preference about track vs trail, but if the PNG Government says trail is the name, then it's their country, so that's it, I think.
    Maybe so, but all the diggers that I knew, referred to "Track",...my wife walked it several years ago, at which time everybody who was with her, including Tour Leaders & native carriers referred to the "track".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickles2 View Post
    I believe Putin Should DEFiNITELY have been invited.
    Pickles.
    You do realise that Russians basically believe or put forward the viewpoint that the War began 22/6/1941 and not the 3/9/39 ( and they basically won it single handed and they never aided Hilter by supplying oil and metals etc for two years...)and that date was not really relevant in any way, and yes even this year my relatives kids are being taught that and if you look at the russian MFA tweets about D day you will see this is confirmed, not taking away anything they did in the war but its a view point they really believe and yes its being taught in schools even in march this year when I was there and looked... they have an extremely valid point but play on it to the domestic audience a lot...., IN first 25 years until brezhnev from memory only 4 or 5 victory parades but Putin has one every year, valid but a "distraction" for other stuff not related to that event IMHO. I visited Stalingrad for the second time and its amazing what must have gone on there and for first time I even heard a russian say, it was amazing how the germans got that far and boy when you are there you can see its a big country. tt was an amazing battle on both sides.
    It suits Putin not to be invited for domestic reasons but he would have gone if invited so its a win win for him inside the country in his eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sashadidi View Post
    You do realise that Russians basically believe or put forward the viewpoint that the War began 22/6/1941 and not the 3/9/39 ( and they basically won it single handed and they never aided Hilter by supplying oil and metals etc for two years...)and that date was not really relevant in any way, and yes even this year my relatives kids are being taught that and if you look at the russian MFA tweets about D day you will see this is confirmed, not taking away anything they did in the war but its a view point they really believe and yes its being taught in schools even in march this year when I was there and looked... they have an extremely valid point but play on it to the domestic audience a lot...., IN first 25 years until brezhnev from memory only 4 or 5 victory parades but Putin has one every year, valid but a "distraction" for other stuff not related to that event IMHO. I visited Stalingrad for the second time and its amazing what must have gone on there and for first time I even heard a russian say, it was amazing how the germans got that far and boy when you are there you can see its a big country. tt was an amazing battle on both sides.
    It suits Putin not to be invited for domestic reasons but he would have gone if invited so its a win win for him inside the country in his eyes.
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    Watching the D Day events on TV it was interesting to note that it was referenced as the Commonwealth forces not the previously used British forces that invaded with US. Politics no doubt.

    There is a push from a certain side of politics in Europe to see the actions of the west during WW2 as merely a diversion while the actual fighting took place on the eastern front. This is usually based on casualty figures.

    The decisive Russian campaign battle did not see any Russian involvement. Was Greece where they rescued the Italians which delayed the invasion by Germany for 6 weeks.

    Russia has only ever been invited to the D Day events on an irregular basis.

    Fighting in the pacific was always a very second tier priority after Europe. This was decided by USA who after all were the major equipment suppliers to both UK and Russia. That victory was achieved in the pacific so quickly with the limited resources provided was a very good effort. The top Allied leaders would have been satisfied with just holding them until Europe was settled. Number of US troops in pacific did not exceed those of Australia until June 1944.

    Have seen the files in the UK national archives where the British war plan for the pacific had 40 UK divisions deployed. Not sure where these were to come from as there were only 43 divisions at peak strength in late 1943

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