Thread: The Banning of Climbing Uluru (Ayers Rock) - thoughts on this article?

And I reckon none of us landlubbers have ever seen Big Ben , perhaps Navy Diver?

Why so? Is it an undersea mountain?

Hi,
Mostly shrouded in cloud, not too many blue sky days down there.

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Cheers

Just wondering, what if gates were put up at all roads entering all areas where native title has been given to our indigenous people.....and on the day they can change access requirements like what happens now at Uluru. Would make planning a trip near impossible, one could drive around Australia and not leave the hi-way.

Fees, would they be more or less than current fees?

Food for thought.....given the owners are in the drivers seat.

There is a 99 year agreement between the traditional owners and the NPWS for access to the land, so I'm sure the gates won't be closed, but the rest of us need to learn to respect the rights of traditional owners, instead of treating them as optional.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

There is a 99 year agreement between the traditional owners and the NPWS for access to the land, so I'm sure the gates won't be closed, but the rest of us need to learn to respect the rights of traditional owners, instead of treating them as optional.

Incorrect Disco my friend, but that is your opinion to which you are entitled, and as I've said to you before I disagree with, as do, according to the poll on this thread, the majority of the members who've read this thread.
A well known media personality I heard just last night, who was absolutely in favor of climbing said that when He climbed, "he felt a profound real connection to the land, and bound to the country" (as I did when I climbed). He was definitely NOT in favor of the ban,..."bans here,...bans there, bans somewhere else" etc etc etc. "Is this what reconciliation is all about"? he said. He also showed a film from 1946, believed to be the first of its type & one of the only originals from so early a date showing an aboriginal major elder climbing the rock with two Europeans showing no displeasure at all, simply happy to tell the Euro men all about it,.....Isn't that a "better way"? He said,..Well, in my opinion Disco, it is.
He suggested that a good sign of real "reconciliation" would be for the ban to be changed, and I agree. "Bans"?....bringing us "together",...a sign of "reconciliation"?...I don't think so.
Now, with respect to your comments about "litter" etc in the area, of course I agree 1000%, so would any sane person. However, I have not heard of, or seen, any mention of any substantial littering on the rock itself, so if you have anything of a substantial nature in that regard to show, I'd like to see it, also adding of course that those guilty of such an offence should be severely punished.
"Dumping of rubbish" is not confined to Uluru either, being a DISGRACEFUL disrespectful blight in just about every area of Aus,....and it's everywhere,...just look at any facility after a major event,...it's simply disgusting, and unfortunately, and no doubt in this case, it will fall upon those controlling the area, rightly or wrongly, to clean it up, as it does everywhere else.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
Mostly shrouded in cloud, not too many blue sky days down there.

-53.100071,73.554060


Cheers

A bit like the Adelaide Hills this Winter in fact.

Probably a bit hot under foot to boot as well. Unlike the Adelaide Hills.


What P2 said ^^ & reconciliation has to work both ways surely, imho.

Have any of you guys ever been out to an isolated aboriginal community?? You know when ur getting close to it by the amount of RUBBISH and car bodies strewn everywhere. They dont believe they need to pick up their own rubbish. Quote.."Some white fella will come along and do it", Un quote. So why not discuss that???