The Banning of Climbing Uluru (Ayers Rock) - thoughts on this article?

**ramblingboy42** · 15th June 2019, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

or bikini clad women sun baking on top of tombstones. This happened near Lake Glenmaggie vic

someone always throws in one like this , hahaha

wheres the photo?

**4bee** · 15th June 2019, 06:31 PM

Some nationalities even call us 'Kangaroos'. I don't mind, me being unique & all.

**RANDLOVER** · 15th June 2019, 08:28 PM

People want to climb the rock because other feats are denied them, like climbing Everest. I agree with "Roy & H.G." the reason for this is, selfishness, on the part all the people climbing Everest these days (there are actually queues hundreds of feet long to get to the top) , if each of them just took one brick or paving stone with them and left it up there, we would all be able to drive to the top.

**loanrangie** · 16th June 2019, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I agree.
Back on topic then.
Don't climb the rock - it's rude to the owners.

I was born here, I own it too.

**101RRS** · 16th June 2019, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by loanrangie

I was born here, I own it too.

No you don't - I was born here too and I have no claim over your land or house.

**Eevo** · 16th June 2019, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by 101RRS

No you don't - I was born here too and I have no claim over your land or house.

so why do they?

**trout1105** · 16th June 2019, 08:56 AM

I believe that the ban on climbing the rock has more to do with politics than it has to do with "Culture" or safety.

**loanrangie** · 16th June 2019, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Eevo

so why do they?

Exactly , its on public land so well all own it.

**101RRS** · 16th June 2019, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by loanrangie

Exactly , its on public land so well all own it.

But it is not on public land - now on private land, aboriginal land.

When did Uluru-Kata Tjuta become a national park?

Ayers Rock (which we now call Uluru) was first declared a national park in 1950.
In 1958, both Ayers Rock and Mount Olga (now Kata Tjuta) were excised from an Aboriginal reserve to form the Ayers Rock–Mt Olga National Park. The park’s name was changed to Uluru and Kata Tjuta (Ayers Rock–Mt Olga) National Park in 1977.
In 1985, after more than 35 years of campaigning, Anangu were recognised as the traditional owners of the park and handed back the deeds to their homelands.

The park was officially renamed Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park in 1993.

Who owns Uluru and Kata Tjuta?

Anangu own Uluru and Kata Tjuta and lease the land to the Australian Government.

Parks Australia and Anangu work together as partners, jointly managing the national park.

Ean Austral · 16th June 2019, 09:47 AM

Its actually a national park in the Northern territory ,which is under the rule of the commonwealth ,so my simple brain tells me its crown land. - happy to be proven wrong.

You are charged a fee to enter the national park , I have no doubt taxpayer funds are used to maintain the area , yet you are told the part in the middle that you came to see is owned by someone else and they will tell you what you can and cant do ... It isn't a dwelling or something that has been man made , its something made by nature , so for my simple brain its totally different to a house, church, etc etc

The rock has been trodden over by tourists for decades, poles have been hammered into it and a chain hand rail has been erected , so I guess for all intents it has been vandalised , and yet a date to stop people accessing the climb is somehow going to cure the past....mmmm

My 2c worth is there would be more benefit if tourist groups or anyone wishing to climb it has to watch a video , or even better, sit in on a talk by the local people as to why its sacred and explain their beliefs and educate people , both from within Australia and overseas, then ask that their wishes to not climb it be respected. It could also be used to pass on the story of the land to the younger generations of people

I think this would be a far better approach and would go along way towards both educating and closing the gap between indigenous and non indigenous people. The current approach is just broadening the gap , as you only need to read this thread to see that its not seen as a popular way forward. It reeks of the us / them which I am sure is not the local people's intention at all , its a political / media football which I am sure people with agendas will use to drive their point.

For me , I been there about 5 or 6 times and in my younger days was too lazy to be bothered to climb it , and not sure if I would climb it if I went back , but I would like to hear first hand why I shouldn't climb it instead of a sign saying its closed to climbing.

This is my own view personal view , so OK let me have it.

Cheers Ean

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