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Thread: The Banning of Climbing Uluru (Ayers Rock) - thoughts on this article?

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    ............and snow fields.

    Deaths associated with skiing in Australia: a 32-year study of cases from the Snowy Mountains.

    Sherry E1, Clout L.
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    We present the first study of skiing-related deaths in Australia--a 32-year study of skiing-related deaths in the Snowy Mountains. We have reported 29 such cases; eight subjects died of trauma, 15 subjects died of cardiovascular causes, and six subjects died of hypothermia. The over-all incidence of death was 0.87 deaths per million skier-days; the specific incidence for trauma-related deaths was 0.24 deaths per million skier-days; for cardiac-related deaths was 0.45 deaths per million skier-days; and for hypothermia-related deaths was 0.18 deaths per million skier-days. These findings compare most-favourably with US figures. Death that is associated with skiing in the Snowy Mountains is a rare event.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    we better ban driving a car then....
    Yeah, I bet a lot more than 35 people have died just trying to drive to Uluru, let alone the 1000’s of others on the roads nationally over the same period.
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    And Horses have killed over 70 people in the last 10 years... 😇
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    And the flu is expected to kill more than 4000 Aussies this year, about 4 times the death toll from road crashes. So, what other irrelevant statistics can we drag in?
    It's pretty simple, really. They own it, and they've banned us from climbing it, so let's just get over it and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    So, what other irrelevant statistics can we drag in?
    deaths from dropbear attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    And the flu is expected to kill more than 4000 Aussies this year, about 4 times the death toll from road crashes. So, what other irrelevant statistics can we drag in?
    It's pretty simple, really. They own it, and they've banned us from climbing it, so let's just get over it and move on.
    Agree 100% mate, my little interludes were just in fun. I agree wholeheartedly on the ban and I would never have climbed it even if I could or had the opportunity even before this was put in motion. 👍
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    I recall a baby died there too and she wasnt even trying to climb the rock...some dingo was eventually to blame for that....or so ive heard. Id love to climb ayres rock...hell id drive my series up there if i could

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    We camped there not long after the incident, my first impression was the number of the meanest , hungriest looking camp dogs in the area. Having been brought up on a sheep station in central Qld., I'm aware of what a dingo can be capable of, especially with new born lambs. Not saying it didn't happen, but with the poor food security some of the campers showed, if a dog did it, looking for an easy meal, my money would be on those camp dogs. Probably wrong, but that shows just how polarising the incident was at the time. The dingo would have been capable of it, if given the chance, just couldn't see one getting past those camp dogs. As I said, probably wrong.

    We decided not to climb. A personal choice, formed by a book by Charles P Mountford, [ O.B.E., M.A.Litt.{Adelaide}Dip. Anthropol. { Cantab. }Hon. D. Litt. { Melb}] called Ayers Rock, It's people, their beliefs and their Art. From the cover- " Mountford lived and travelled with the men and women of the Pitjandjara tribe , studied their way of life, and learnt how closely it was linked to their surroundings. How the natural features of the rock were all explained by the deeds of their mythical heroes at the time of creation." We used the book when we walked the perimeter of the Rock, to help explain some of the sites. It wasn't until much later that I realised we probably encroached on some sacred site , through our ignorance. Just as bad as those climbing through their ignorance. Now I believe Aboriginal guides will take people around carefully explaining those sites taboo to women, as well as men. A much better experience, to have the Pitjandjara people involved . I will go back, to partake in that experience, after all, that's why we do it , isn't it? to gain enlightenment, anything other than that is pointless.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
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    after all, that's why we do it , isn't it? to gain enlightenment, anything other than that is pointless.
    That's how I try and approach most everything now.
    Not always successfully, but thankfully the ego driven ambition has dropped with age.

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