Thread: NOT A GOOD SIGN FOR BRISBANE'S FUTURE.......

Please get a grip, I have not, and never have denied climate change. What I doubt is that anyone has any idea what the future holds and how throwing money at a problem like this will overcome it.
Simple as that.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

"Get Real"???...You'll be moving South then Disco?
Pickles.

Up actually, we're moving to 450 metres above sea level, so that should keep our feet dry for my lifetime.

On emissions, last time I checked Australians were the 11th highest emitters per person, and the highest per capita emitters in the developed world. We are among the very worst. We urgently need to get our act together. If a rich country like Australia refuses to act responsibly, then how can we expect anyone else to do the right thing?

List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions per capita - Wikipedia

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Up actually, we're moving to 450 metres above sea level, so that should keep our feet dry for my lifetime.

On emissions, last time I checked Australians were the 11th highest emitters per person, and the highest per capita emitters in the developed world. We are among the very worst. We urgently need to get our act together. If a rich country like Australia refuses to act responsibly, then how can we expect anyone else to do the right thing?

List of countries by carbon dioxide emissions per capita - Wikipedia

These figures are correct but, owing to our population, it means that our global impact is less than 2%. Even our CSIRO state that if Australia was to somehow "Fix" it's carbon output, the most beneficial effect it would have would be to hopefully set an example to the rest of the world.

I totally agree that there is a "Greenhouse Effect". It's the way that the average Australian is threatened with "Gloom and Doom" by politicians and media and made out to be a world wrecking environmental vandal when, according to the CSIRO again, Australia's output is extremely low, is what I can't handle.
So, as I see it, there's not much point in scientists and media ranting and raving to fellow Aussies. Perhaps they should be submitting articles in car magazines in Vietnam, China, India etc.

I also think that the rest of the world and the UN especially, see Australia as a soft target, recognising our enthralment to "Political Correctness" knows no bounds.

Originally Posted by Saitch

So, as I see it, there's not much point in scientists and media ranting and raving to fellow Aussies. Perhaps they should be submitting articles in car magazines in Vietnam, China, India etc.

Actually, the Chinese government takes global warming very seriously, albeit they're still a large emitter of Co2. They actually see it as one way they will win the new cold war between them and the US - because they will transition to a carbon economy and the US won't. And I doubt that Vietnam has much of an effect on global CO2.

Originally Posted by Saitch

I also think that the rest of the world and the UN especially, see Australia as a soft target, recognising our enthralment to "Political Correctness" knows no bounds.

Australia is, like the US, seen as a climate laggard. Europe, including the UK, takes climate change much more seriously.

Climate change has no connection to "political correctness", but your linking of the two, the references to scientists and media forming some kind of cabal and the reference to the UN do illustrate the point I was making in my earlier post about how effective the Koch brothers et al have been in propagandaising what was originally unpoliticised science.

Why then aren't countries like Kuwait and Cuba brought to task over their emissions per capita. I'm not trying to be political but it would appear that some countries are being openly criticised about climate change while other, worse performing countries are never mentioned. I agree that Australia has an unenviable emissions output but, referring to my previous post, in the big scheme of things, we are not contributing that much. China's emissions have increased as well although, apparently the way things are monitored in China, there is some contention on actual output.

Viet Nam's output has increased dramatically in line with its GDP.
I stand by my statement that we are seen as a soft target.

Originally Posted by Saitch

These figures are correct but, owing to our population, it means that our global impact is less than 2%. Even our CSIRO state that if Australia was to somehow "Fix" it's carbon output, the most beneficial effect it would have would be to hopefully set an example to the rest of the world.

I totally agree that there is a "Greenhouse Effect". It's the way that the average Australian is threatened with "Gloom and Doom" by politicians and media and made out to be a world wrecking environmental vandal when, according to the CSIRO again, Australia's output is extremely low, is what I can't handle.
So, as I see it, there's not much point in scientists and media ranting and raving to fellow Aussies. Perhaps they should be submitting articles in car magazines in Vietnam, China, India etc.

I also think that the rest of the world and the UN especially, see Australia as a soft target, recognising our enthralment to "Political Correctness" knows no bounds.

Yes, ours are about 2%, but that's no excuse for doing nothing. If everyone took that selfish attitude, no-one would do anything. That's the road to global failure.

China is leading the world in investing in renewables, while we are falling behind. China will get the jobs from manufacturing renewable equipment, while we will miss out, yet again.

They’re investment in renewables is based mainly on sales to the west, but once again a good distraction to muddy the waters of what China is really about. They’re cheap coal fired power drive low cost manufacturing.

The problem is actually not CO2 emission
Albeit that is the road the developed economies of the world will be dragged kicking and screaming to fix

The problem

Which will never be addressed because it is the elephant in the room of humanity is that exponential growth of any system will destroy it


A 2% targeted economy growth around the world (G20) is actually what dooms planet earth

A zero inflation - zero net poplulation growth world economy will actually fix the root cause of a planet which really doesn’t give a **** if it has one billion or 5 billion humans on it ... it does care if it has 10 billion humans and will flick us like a squita on a Brisbane summer evening.

Just ask the Petrie dish of bacteria how exponential growth has worked out for them

Question to those advocating for this article predicting “stuff”

What should the world do starting Tommorrow to prevent xyz

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