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    Varieties of External Screening for Louvre Windows

    Hello All,

    Can people post up different strategies that you have used to externally fix screens to louvre windows? Due to the our latest addition to the home; "Zorro" - a Rag Doll kitten, I have to put insect screens on four sets of louvre windows. I have seen a couple of different methods - some I doubt their ease of use and effectiveness. It would be good to get some advice and get things right the first time

    I am in Queensland and the window sets are on closed-in verandahs. The house is currently closed up for winter; however, it would be good to be able to open the louvres up once it starts to get warmer again.

    We also have a couple of sets of casement (?) Well two wood and glass window panes mounted vertically that pivot open on hinges mounted on the sides of the window frame. I have seen these screened internally by having aluminum screens that slide in a frame. Another way was to have mesh pinned to the window frame. Then a little plastic clip-on rectangle is sandwiched onto the mesh. You stick a hand through to open the windows up. From what I have observed elsewhere; these plastic rectangles break off from the screen when the wire mesh becomes fatigued. This leaves a big hole in the insect screen which the mozzies just love.

    Tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated. Oh and here is some photographs of the windows and the cause for needing to screen them. One cat by the name of "Zorro". Are the windows in the first photograph still called "casements" or something else? My first thought of a casement window is frames of glass that have pivots mounted top and bottom and open out side-ways; like the ones in the last photo, taken from one of my previous homes.

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    Many years ago, my father solved this issue by simply building a frame out of 2'x1" timber the full size of the windows, with an upright between each set of louvres. This was laid flat on the verandah, and covered with bronze gauze, tacked on, and then each bit of 2"x1" covered with half round moulding.

    The whole lot was held in place by a number of wooden* clips spaced out by lengths of 1" dowel drilled lengthwise with a long screw through them.

    *Not sure of this, may have been short sections of aluminium angle

    In our case the set of louvres was about four feet high and about ten feet long. I'm pretty certain that the whole ot was one fitting, but you could do it in more manageable sections.

    The same house had casement windows, and these were fitted with metal gauze 'blinds' on the inside. These were troublesome, but seem to be the only real solution except for a hinged frame opening inwards - this is better if the casement has a wind out mechanism that can be inside the gauze frame.

    My flat in Melbourne had the gauze 'blinds', and I wasn't very happy with them either!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Many years ago, my father solved this issue by simply building a frame out of 2'x1" timber the full size of the windows, with an upright between each set of louvres. This was laid flat on the verandah, and covered with bronze gauze, tacked on, and then each bit of 2"x1" covered with half round moulding.

    The whole lot was held in place by a number of wooden* clips spaced out by lengths of 1" dowel drilled lengthwise with a long screw through them.

    *Not sure of this, may have been short sections of aluminium angle

    In our case the set of louvres was about four feet high and about ten feet long. I'm pretty certain that the whole ot was one fitting, but you could do it in more manageable sections.

    The same house had casement windows, and these were fitted with metal gauze 'blinds' on the inside. These were troublesome, but seem to be the only real solution except for a hinged frame opening inwards - this is better if the casement has a wind out mechanism that can be inside the gauze frame.

    My flat in Melbourne had the gauze 'blinds', and I wasn't very happy with them either!
    Hello John,

    Thanks for the detailed information - much appreciated. As you can see in the louvre photograph - they are in sets that fit under an external awning. I was thinking of making a frame that covers each segment between the awning frame's struts. This will cover two to three sets of louvers. Nothing in uniform in my house. I am sure that I was the first to use a square and a spirit level while doing construction work on the house. I am toying between making an aluminum frame and then mounting the screen to the frame. Or doing a similar thing with timber for the main frame and then fitting an aluminum screen.

    Thanks for the tip about how your father made the external box screen and its fixing to the window. I was considering making angle iron brackets to hold the timber frame. Then I thought recently of using the cabinet-making cam and bolt type of fitting for securing the timber screen frame to the window. Or the method of using a long screw like your dad did.

    Thanks again John

    Kind regards
    Lionel

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    rereading it, I should have mentioned that the 2x1 timber was on edge to get the depth to clear the open louvres. What you need will depend on the exact build of the windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    rereading it, I should have mentioned that the 2x1 timber was on edge to get the depth to clear the open louvres. What you need will depend on the exact build of the windows.
    Hello John,

    Thanks John, I read it as 2 x 1 inches positioned on edge to get correct depth. I will need 70 mm by 25 mm to get full clearance of the louvre pane with the depth being 70 mm. I bought some treated hardwood of that dimensions years ago for the same project. However, it was for a trial that got side-tracked as not being a high priority.

    I only found the lengths of timber in July when I had to access my stored timber to do unexpected repairs on my old Queenslander. The fascia/barge board on the verandah had been hiding very old and by then dead rot. It resulted in the corner verandah post swinging in the air, as the bearer was eaten away at the joint. Two bearers, six floor joists, some new floor boards ... and a new verandah post later ...

    I could then start framing the sides to close in the corner to make a new room. ! You know one of those quick easy jobs ... before I leaned on the verandah post! Fun - Fun - fun - Not . It turned out that two walls became three new walls. The third wall was a replacement for the old existing side wall that was a bodgey brothers construction of ill-repute.

    Got to love the old Queenslander homesteads - they are just like painting the Sydney Harbour Bridge. Just finish one end then you have to start again on the other end.

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    there is a reason I framed my house in steel!
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    That's why I hate wood even when it's dead it is still moving! Lionel you might want to put some burglar bars across the louvres as well, I believe they are notoriously easy for thieves to remove to gain access.
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    Tongue in cheek.

    Unless the mesh is made from Kevlar, Zorro will still make a mess of them if he wants to sharpen his claws on them.


    What had been done here yonks ago was as John described, ie. extended frames. The glass has to be free to move otherwise why have them?

    I love the old Queenslanders as well but my rellies were always painting theirs but their love for the old place outweighed the maintenance costs.

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