Thread: Dodge Defender Jeep ??

Originally Posted by 4bee

According to JDNSW in reply to a post of mine some time ago. They all came out of the same plant & apparently had identical panels. The 1 ton Inter was a dead ringer for the 1 ton Dodge AFAICR.

Hello 4Bee,

Gee - were they only rated as 1 Ton! They seemed much bigger!

Kind regards
Lionel

Well, the Inter Tray top certainly was in my case.

It was rolled on a dirt country road loaded up with Frigidaire Refrig units & beer coolers due to a SH rear tyre the skinflints bought.

JD may be able to tell you more.

I can't help with what the PMG vans were, but I understand Dodge and International shared largely the same bodywork from about the end of WW2 up into at least the 1970s. As I understand it the body panelwork was made by Chrysler Australia, who had the presses to do it. International bought the pressings from Chrysler, but I do not know whether they were partly assembled by Chrysler or not. (Dodge, of course, was a Chrysler marque)

Although the appearance of the two brands was made to look quite different by using different trim etc, if you saw them alongside each other the commonality was obvious. The cab interior was different though, and the chassis and drive trains were also different, but since both companies bought in axles, gearboxes etc, there would have been some commonality.

PMG Dodge , QLD

Lots of PMG Vans on this page including many Dodges and Inters

Colin McDiarmid | Flickr

Originally Posted by goingbush

Lots of PMG Vans on this page including many Dodges and Inters

Colin McDiarmid | Flickr

Hello Going Bush,

Thanks for the link to Colin McDiarmid's site. One of the first vehicles was a PMG Van 4x4 International AB120. Accessed 16th January 2020 from, PMG Van 4x4 International AB120 '''ZET-688''' Red | Colin McDiarmid | Flickr.

The later model van did not have any side windows in the cargo area. I will keep looking. Thanks!

Had a bit more of a dig and found a windowed version of a later van 1975 International D1510

I am not sure what the numbers in the following models mean - is there are number which relates to carrying capacity?

Kind regards
Lionel

Kind regards
Lionel

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

Hello Going Bush,

Thanks for the link to Colin McDiarmid's site. One of the first vehicles was a PMG Van 4x4 International AB120. Accessed 16th January 2020 from, PMG Van 4x4 International AB120 '''ZET-688''' Red | Colin McDiarmid | Flickr.

The later model van did not have any side windows in the cargo area. I will keep looking. Thanks!

Had a bit more of a dig and found a windowed version of a later van 1975 International D1510

I am not sure what the numbers in the following models mean - is there are number which relates to carrying capacity?

Kind regards
Lionel

Kind regards
Lionel

If yoou mean the numbers in the model designations, they do not represent specific carrying capacity - but while the first digit is always "1", the second digit increases with carrying capacity - for example, the 110 is a light pickup, the 120 is a heavier duty version, the 130 normally has a trayback and has dual rear wheels. The 160 would be a MR by current standards, and the 180 a heavier version. The 190 was usually (but not always) fitted with tandem rear axles, usually used as a prime mover.

The third digit, not displayed on body trim, and often ignored elsewhere, represents variants of the model.

With the C- series, an extra zero was added.

The letter prefix was as follows:-

L = first postwar design, R = minor restyle and mechanical changes, S = more modern engines, minor restyle, A = completely restyled cab and bodywork, four headlights arranged vertically, B = minor mechanical changes.

AR = R model Australian built, AS = S model Australian built, AA = A model Australian built, AB = Australian built mechanically cross between A and B, new styling, full width bonnet, headlights at an angle. C = Australian built update of AB, two headlights, a zero added to the number. Note that the R-series continued as the 190 long after smaller models had more modern styles.

For completeness, while four (or six) wheel drive conversions were available from time to time for almost any model, the only models sold in significant numbers with driving front axles were the 120, 160, and 190, although I don't believe any 190s 6x6s were sold in Australia.
Hope this helps - all from memory! (I know less about later and cab over models)

Damn you lot, you have me side tracked again!

I've always been a bit partial to Bedford TJ & TK series trucks.
I saw a nice TJ unit in Perth recently. Was 4WD, sounded like a warm v8 underneath, wooden tray, retro paint, nice....

Then there's this hahahaha.
Custom 1968 J Series Bedford

Off on another hair brained project scoping exercise.....
Chris