Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by ChookD2

At the end of the day,....

there will be an inordinate number of deaths,
there will be a vaccine,
hopefully there are other associated advances in medical research,
the rich will get richer,
the poor will get poorer,
the world will go on.

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And unfortunately,many businesses will fail,both small and large.Small business is the biggest employer in the country.
This isn't some short term issue.
It is going to go on for months,if not years.

Can’t believe I’ve missed over a thousand opinions on this. Tuned in now. Popcorn ready.

Not to underestimate the current threat, particularly as infections are starting to rise exponentially, but the Swine Flu pandemic in Australia just over 10 years ago killed 200 and infected 40,000 in a couple of months - I don't seem to recall anything like the hysteria we have now at the time when the Swine Flu was around.

Garry

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Not to underestimate the current threat, particularly as infections are starting to rise exponentially, but the Swine Flu pandemic in Australia just over 10 years ago killed 200 and infected 40,000 in a couple of months - I don't seem to recall anything like the hysteria we have now at the time when the Swine Flu was around.

Garry

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Time to burn you sorry not sorry.

Swine flu was obvious to detect and simple to contain. It was hard to spread. There were no asymptomatic patents so containment was simple.

SARS-COV-2 to use its medical name not its alert name or the generic virus name is nothing like anything previous. It’s commonly asymptomatic or cold-like symptoms, is extremely contagious, and doesn’t touch the sides of MERS OR SARS, or Swine flu to use their generic names.

Swine You’re talking about a flu that killed 18,000 ish worldwide yet we’re over 10,000 and just getting started and you’re trying to compare?

This is in infantile stages. California has already done the modelling and expects 25 million infections. That’s a ****load of dead.

You can’t compare. The reason the world is going “mental” is those who know, know what they’re dealing with. We have not seen this since the Spanish Flu. Wait, watch, hopefully learn. I hope you or yours close are not statistics

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Originally Posted by bob10

A simple self test, Of course I can't guarantee it.

Test yourself

An email to staff at an NHS hospital this week contains useful information on distinguishing COVID-19 from a simple cold: No “cold nose” or cough with cold. However, an early symptom of the virus is a dry, rough cough. The email highlights early detection and a simple test to pick up infection: Breathe in deeply through your nose, hold your breath for 10 seconds then exhale. If you can do that without coughing or difficulty, you don’t have virus. The email recommends the test daily until infection risk passes.

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No good if you have acute viral bronchitis [emoji16] . But as I understand it Covid19 also has a high temp is serious.

Cheers

I forgot to add. I was in the UK when I got it. Early treatment with Tamiflu sorted it. Not so simple with this baby

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Originally Posted by bob10

Murdoch has sent most of the workforce at the Courier Mail home to work. They have 80 IT specialists to sort out 800 workers. My wife has set up her workspace, and tested the gear all go so far. I can see this being the norm in the future, especially if he can sell off the infrastructure and save on the electricity bills. No worker has had the time to negotiate conditions, we'll wait & see how it pans out.

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Yes, the flipside is that by melding home and work you're always at work - still, for our ancestors prior to the industrial revolution that was the norm in any case.

Small local business fails, but very large multinationals ?
Cui bono ???

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Originally Posted by bob10

A simple self test, Of course I can't guarantee it.

Test yourself

An email to staff at an NHS hospital this week contains useful information on distinguishing COVID-19 from a simple cold: No “cold nose” or cough with cold. However, an early symptom of the virus is a dry, rough cough. The email highlights early detection and a simple test to pick up infection: Breathe in deeply through your nose, hold your breath for 10 seconds then exhale. If you can do that without coughing or difficulty, you don’t have virus. The email recommends the test daily until infection risk passes.

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This "test" has been repeatedly debunked. Ability to do this can be affected by all sorts of conditions and Covid 19 does not necessarily affect the ability to do it, so the "test" is totally worthless.

There are quite a few worthwhile and accurate websites for information if you don't trust the official ones (see the other thread), but following or passing on emails from an unknown (even if a good authority is claimed) source is even worse (if possible) than getting your medical advice from facebook.

Yes, same here in NZ. Our numbers are now at 52 cases. Almost all have been either foreign nationals or Kiwis coming here. Of late, most of the newbies were returning Kiwis. While we have shut the borders to foreign nationals coming here without good reason, some (or many?) returning New Zealanders will be tested and found with it. A sick work colleague of my wife is awaiting test results from having returned from Melbourne recently.

Yesterday, in the 1pm Govt update, we were told of two infections where no link was able to be made to travel or direct links to those who traveled. The health authorities are now investigating whether this is the first sign of community transmission. They have no doubt this community transmission will eventuate and are preparing for it but this could be the first sign in the numbers.

Yesterday the government implemented a four-level alert system. COVID-19 alert system | Unite against COVID-19 We are at level 2.

Interesting times...

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

The only bit of brightness on the horizon is that a significant part of the rising numbers is from new overseas arrivals. After today there should only be a tiny trickle of these as the border closure takes effect. This should result in a lower than expected increase in numbers in about a week - but note that for the last week or two we have had a steady 3-4 days for doubling the numbers. Unless this slows dramatically, the numbers get very scary very quickly.

It will take probably a fortnight before the numbers show whether current restrictions are working, but any slowdown due to no more foreign carriers* will be a big help..

* About 30% of the cases so far came from overseas and about another 20% are their direct contacts.

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